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I have said, and will continue to say, that the greatest sin of Tesla is that using autopilot requires good judgement from the drivers, and that is an unreasona

I have said, and will continue to say, that the greatest sin of Tesla is that using autopilot requires good judgement from the drivers, and that is an unreasonable expectation.

rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
>Driving safely requires good judgement and that is an unreasonable expectation.
- arpa 5y ago
  Autopilot that requires constant attention of the pilot is not really an autopilot, is it?
  - colordrops 5y ago
    If you have ever flown an airplane with autopilot you would realize you are completely wrong.
    - _fizz_buzz_ 5y ago
      That might be true, but that is not the user's expectation and marketing at Tesla knows this isn't the user's expectation.
    - toomanybeersies 5y ago
      Most people have never flown an airplane, let alone one with autopilot. To the layman, autopilot and self-driving are synonymous (as epitomised by this scene from The Darwin Awards: https://youtu.be/PNF7Ru1mMeo https://youtu.be/PNF7Ru1mMeo)
  - rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
    >An autopilot is a system used to control the trajectory of an aircraft, marine craft or spacecraft without requiring constant manual control by a human operator. Autopilots do not replace human operators. Instead, the autopilot assists the operator's control of the vehicle, allowing the operator to focus on broader aspects of operations (for example, monitoring the trajectory, weather and on-board systems) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot
    - dendriti 5y ago
      So the Autopilot in a Tesla is designed to allow the driver to check the weather and plan her destination? Aircraft don't often cluster together meters apart and travel in the same directions. If they did, Autopilot would certainly be used differently. This is why I think it is irresponsible to use the term for automobiles.
      - rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
        >for example,
        dendriti 5y ago
        Yes, a terrible example, for the reasons above.
  - Cthulhu_ 5y ago
    You're right, and they should never have named their driving assistance tech autopilot because it gives a false impression of its capabilities.
- creshal 5y ago
  I mean, have you seen some of the people on the road?
- LinAGKar 5y ago
  They're literally calling it "Full Self-Driving Capability" though (with the upgraded version).
  - rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
    hardware
exporectomy 5y ago
While I don't have any criticism of you opinion, I've noticed that people who say "I'm always saying ..." usually seem to have a simplistic and rigid understanding of what they're talking about. It's a way to mark yourself as probably a bit of a crank and unwilling to have any interesting conversation about the topic.
- MPSimmons 5y ago
  That's a fair observation. I may be a bit of a crank :-D

I have said, and will continue to say, that the greatest sin of Tesla is that using autopilot requires good judgement from the drivers, and that is an unreasonable expectation.

rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago

>Driving safely requires good judgement and that is an unreasonable expectation.

arpa 5y ago
Autopilot that requires constant attention of the pilot is not really an autopilot, is it?
- colordrops 5y ago
  If you have ever flown an airplane with autopilot you would realize you are completely wrong.
  - _fizz_buzz_ 5y ago
    That might be true, but that is not the user's expectation and marketing at Tesla knows this isn't the user's expectation.
  - toomanybeersies 5y ago
    Most people have never flown an airplane, let alone one with autopilot. To the layman, autopilot and self-driving are synonymous (as epitomised by this scene from The Darwin Awards: https://youtu.be/PNF7Ru1mMeo https://youtu.be/PNF7Ru1mMeo)
- rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
  >An autopilot is a system used to control the trajectory of an aircraft, marine craft or spacecraft without requiring constant manual control by a human operator. Autopilots do not replace human operators. Instead, the autopilot assists the operator's control of the vehicle, allowing the operator to focus on broader aspects of operations (for example, monitoring the trajectory, weather and on-board systems) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot
  - dendriti 5y ago
    So the Autopilot in a Tesla is designed to allow the driver to check the weather and plan her destination? Aircraft don't often cluster together meters apart and travel in the same directions. If they did, Autopilot would certainly be used differently. This is why I think it is irresponsible to use the term for automobiles.
    - rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
      >for example,
      - dendriti 5y ago
        Yes, a terrible example, for the reasons above.
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  You're right, and they should never have named their driving assistance tech autopilot because it gives a false impression of its capabilities.
creshal 5y ago
I mean, have you seen some of the people on the road?
LinAGKar 5y ago
They're literally calling it "Full Self-Driving Capability" though (with the upgraded version).
- rcMgD2BwE72F 5y ago
  hardware

exporectomy 5y ago

While I don't have any criticism of you opinion, I've noticed that people who say "I'm always saying ..." usually seem to have a simplistic and rigid understanding of what they're talking about. It's a way to mark yourself as probably a bit of a crank and unwilling to have any interesting conversation about the topic.

MPSimmons 5y ago
That's a fair observation. I may be a bit of a crank :-D