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Coreutils, written in the V language

29 points by 0xedb 5y ago

OhSoHumble 5y ago
Why is this being posted? This project looks to have around an hour of effort invested into it so far. Very, very, very few utilities are done and the ones that are are just a few lines of code due to their simplicity. I'm normally very welcoming of projects posted on HN but this is almost nothing. I clicked around through several directories to look at code before seeing the completion table in the README and got upset when I saw that none of the directories had source files in them.
- tux1968 5y ago
  Think it is more about the language itself and getting people interested enough to contribute to a simple project. Personally i'd never heard of V before and found it interesting to check out. Downloaded prebuilt compiler binary and had a hello world running in a few minutes. Built and played the Tetris example a few minutes later. The project sounds very ambitious and is trying to target many platforms and many use cases.. my worry is it's trying to do too much too soon. Still, seems well worth keeping an eye on.
  - brabel 5y ago
    V has been around for a while now, and a few years ago it was accused of being vaporware due to its many outlandish claims and very little to show for it: https://christine.website/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23 https://christine.website/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23 It's 2 years since that was posted... anything changed much?
    - tux1968 5y ago
      It seems that most if not all of those criticisms still apply. I replicated the speed, valgrind, and dependency tests here.
- ylluminate 5y ago
  Take a look now, it's up to 53 commits already + a solid PR: https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main Encouraging!
barakm 5y ago
V for Vaporware
- ThouYS 5y ago
  I thought so too, but looking through the V repo looks like it has come a long way
- icy 5y ago
  Don't simply parrot the same line. I used to believe that, until I recently checked the project out again -- they seem to have come a long way. It's pretty impressive.
- Shadonototro 5y ago
  and yet it is better than rust/zig/jai jealousy is not a good thing my friend
timvisee 5y ago
This only list 5 tools, some of which are `true`, `false` and `yes`.
- daptaq 5y ago
  Incredible how you can get 30+ stars just for creating the right directories.
  - nine_k 5y ago
    All publicity is good publicity. Grandiose claims get hype and stick, refutations and "it's not completely ready yet" get much less attention. I remember that the V language itself has pulled this stunt several times.
- ylluminate 5y ago
  Check again... https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main And a nice in progress PR: https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/pulls https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/pulls I think this is pretty cool for such a short period of time. Lots of excitement from everyone on Discord as far as this project goes for not just Vinix, but for general coreutils implementation for *nix.

29 points by 0xedb 5y ago

Why is this being posted? This project looks to have around an hour of effort invested into it so far. Very, very, very few utilities are done and the ones that are are just a few lines of code due to their simplicity. I'm normally very welcoming of projects posted on HN but this is almost nothing. I clicked around through several directories to look at code before seeing the completion table in the README and got upset when I saw that none of the directories had source files in them.

tux1968 5y ago
Think it is more about the language itself and getting people interested enough to contribute to a simple project. Personally i'd never heard of V before and found it interesting to check out. Downloaded prebuilt compiler binary and had a hello world running in a few minutes. Built and played the Tetris example a few minutes later. The project sounds very ambitious and is trying to target many platforms and many use cases.. my worry is it's trying to do too much too soon. Still, seems well worth keeping an eye on.
- brabel 5y ago
  V has been around for a while now, and a few years ago it was accused of being vaporware due to its many outlandish claims and very little to show for it: https://christine.website/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23 https://christine.website/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23 It's 2 years since that was posted... anything changed much?
  - tux1968 5y ago
    It seems that most if not all of those criticisms still apply. I replicated the speed, valgrind, and dependency tests here.
ylluminate 5y ago
Take a look now, it's up to 53 commits already + a solid PR: https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main Encouraging!

barakm 5y ago

V for Vaporware

ThouYS 5y ago
I thought so too, but looking through the V repo looks like it has come a long way
icy 5y ago
Don't simply parrot the same line. I used to believe that, until I recently checked the project out again -- they seem to have come a long way. It's pretty impressive.
Shadonototro 5y ago
and yet it is better than rust/zig/jai jealousy is not a good thing my friend

timvisee 5y ago

This only list 5 tools, some of which are `true`, `false` and `yes`.

daptaq 5y ago
Incredible how you can get 30+ stars just for creating the right directories.
- nine_k 5y ago
  All publicity is good publicity. Grandiose claims get hype and stick, refutations and "it's not completely ready yet" get much less attention. I remember that the V language itself has pulled this stunt several times.
ylluminate 5y ago
Check again... https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/commits/main And a nice in progress PR: https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/pulls https://github.com/vlang/coreutils/pulls I think this is pretty cool for such a short period of time. Lots of excitement from everyone on Discord as far as this project goes for not just Vinix, but for general coreutils implementation for *nix.