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My guess is that GitHub where the code is hosted collects way more telemetry than this and nobody bats an eye at that.

by IgorPartola 5y ago

gentleman11 5y ago
Nobody? I’ve been giving some thought to https://sr.ht/ https://sr.ht/ recently because of that sort of thing
- zxzax 5y ago
  Please make sure you check the privacy policy there as well: https://man.sr.ht/privacy.md https://man.sr.ht/privacy.md It's not clear what sort of thing you're referring to, it's generally not possible to make a service where you have accounts and billing, that simultaneously doesn't store your information. The whole point of it is that you want it to store your information.
- IgorPartola 5y ago
  Nobody is an absolutist statement. The people hosting this code clearly didn’t give this much thought. People downloading it likely won’t either.
mumblemumble 5y ago
Whatever telemetry GitHub collects is probably the least interesting stuff they have on me. What's way more revealing about me as a person is all the stuff that GitHub is collecting and storing about me because storing that information is exactly what GitHub is for: code I've written, interactions with people in issue discussions, billing information related to my account, projects I've starred, etc. Yes, they probably also know that I usually connect from an IP address in Chicago. And, while storing that information isn't strictly necessary, I'm also more-or-less 100% confident in saying that anyone who might want to keep tabs on me already knows I live in Chicago, and that would have been true 30 years ago, too. (Well, 30 years ago it was another town, but still.) I suppose a lot of this is maybe just a halo effect due to all the (quite legitimate) upset about surveillance capitalism? Which is fair. And perhaps we want to say that it's easier to try and shut down all telemetry than it is to distinguish legitimate telemetry from abusive telemetry. Lord knows, if we try to carve out any concept of legitimate telemetry, adtech companies will immediately go about probing it for loopholes.
- protomyth 5y ago
  I do wonder if a company with a nasty non-compete would subpoena GitHub to get where and what time you logged on to see if you were at work and if you used a work laptop for a project. Also, GitHub is Microsoft and LinkedIn.

My guess is that GitHub where the code is hosted collects way more telemetry than this and nobody bats an eye at that.

gentleman11 5y ago

Nobody? I’ve been giving some thought to https://sr.ht/ https://sr.ht/ recently because of that sort of thing

zxzax 5y ago
Please make sure you check the privacy policy there as well: https://man.sr.ht/privacy.md https://man.sr.ht/privacy.md It's not clear what sort of thing you're referring to, it's generally not possible to make a service where you have accounts and billing, that simultaneously doesn't store your information. The whole point of it is that you want it to store your information.
IgorPartola 5y ago
Nobody is an absolutist statement. The people hosting this code clearly didn’t give this much thought. People downloading it likely won’t either.

mumblemumble 5y ago

Whatever telemetry GitHub collects is probably the least interesting stuff they have on me. What's way more revealing about me as a person is all the stuff that GitHub is collecting and storing about me because storing that information is exactly what GitHub is for: code I've written, interactions with people in issue discussions, billing information related to my account, projects I've starred, etc. Yes, they probably also know that I usually connect from an IP address in Chicago. And, while storing that information isn't strictly necessary, I'm also more-or-less 100% confident in saying that anyone who might want to keep tabs on me already knows I live in Chicago, and that would have been true 30 years ago, too. (Well, 30 years ago it was another town, but still.) I suppose a lot of this is maybe just a halo effect due to all the (quite legitimate) upset about surveillance capitalism? Which is fair. And perhaps we want to say that it's easier to try and shut down all telemetry than it is to distinguish legitimate telemetry from abusive telemetry. Lord knows, if we try to carve out any concept of legitimate telemetry, adtech companies will immediately go about probing it for loopholes.

protomyth 5y ago
I do wonder if a company with a nasty non-compete would subpoena GitHub to get where and what time you logged on to see if you were at work and if you used a work laptop for a project. Also, GitHub is Microsoft and LinkedIn.