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Unfortunately, the new web developers tools* built into Firefox represent a small subset of what Firebug and Webkit Inspector can do. Since Firebug is not compa

Unfortunately, the new web developers tools* built into Firefox represent a small subset of what Firebug and Webkit Inspector can do. Since Firebug is not compatible with Nightlies (Firefox 8) and Aurora (Firefox 7), it's a major regression. * https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_the_Web_Console https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_the_Web_Console

zobzu 15y ago
That's not even true. The web console is not a replacement for firebug. its just decent built in tools. Firebug - guess what - supports Firefox 7 and probably 8 too. And of course, Firefox 5 as well which is the latest release of Firefox btw. It's tiring to read the large amount of FUD against Firefox lately. People like you are the major regression to the interwebs. Very seriously. http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/
- Locke1689 15y ago
  The page you linked indicates that Firefox 8 is not supported. Also, please try to be civil with your comments in the future (and welcome to HN).
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- mikemaccana 15y ago
  > That's not even true. Today I needed to determine if any resources were 404ing on a page. Yesterday I wanted to see the exact POST request my browser was sending. I did both on FF using the inbuilt developer tools. I'm sure they may not replace every piece of Firebug functionality, but I didn't say they did. > People like you are the major regression to the interwebs. Very seriously. I've flagged your post. Please read http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dangoor 15y ago
The Firebug team has tests running against Nightly. Bugs are caught and fixed fairly quickly. Because we work to catch bugs during the Nightly phase, there should not be much time during which an Aurora build is not compatible with a pre-release (at least!) Firebug, and that would be soon after Aurora is branched. Given that Nightly is the least stable kind of build and could have other problems along the way, we've reached a pretty good point with Firebug's compatibility. Of course, you also have the Web Console if you're having trouble with Firebug (and I'll grant that this alone is not a replacement for Firebug!) ObDisclaimer: I'm the product manager for devtools at Mozilla.
dangoor 15y ago
Just thought I'd mention that Firebug 1.8 (now in beta) is compatible with Aurora and Nightly: http://blog.getfirebug.com/2011/07/18/firebug-1-8b6/ http://blog.getfirebug.com/2011/07/18/firebug-1-8b6/

zobzu 15y ago

That's not even true. The web console is not a replacement for firebug. its just decent built in tools. Firebug - guess what - supports Firefox 7 and probably 8 too. And of course, Firefox 5 as well which is the latest release of Firefox btw. It's tiring to read the large amount of FUD against Firefox lately. People like you are the major regression to the interwebs. Very seriously. http://getfirebug.com/ http://getfirebug.com/

Locke1689 15y ago
The page you linked indicates that Firefox 8 is not supported. Also, please try to be civil with your comments in the future (and welcome to HN).
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mikemaccana 15y ago
> That's not even true. Today I needed to determine if any resources were 404ing on a page. Yesterday I wanted to see the exact POST request my browser was sending. I did both on FF using the inbuilt developer tools. I'm sure they may not replace every piece of Firebug functionality, but I didn't say they did. > People like you are the major regression to the interwebs. Very seriously. I've flagged your post. Please read http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dangoor 15y ago

The Firebug team has tests running against Nightly. Bugs are caught and fixed fairly quickly. Because we work to catch bugs during the Nightly phase, there should not be much time during which an Aurora build is not compatible with a pre-release (at least!) Firebug, and that would be soon after Aurora is branched. Given that Nightly is the least stable kind of build and could have other problems along the way, we've reached a pretty good point with Firebug's compatibility. Of course, you also have the Web Console if you're having trouble with Firebug (and I'll grant that this alone is not a replacement for Firebug!) ObDisclaimer: I'm the product manager for devtools at Mozilla.

dangoor 15y ago

Just thought I'd mention that Firebug 1.8 (now in beta) is compatible with Aurora and Nightly: http://blog.getfirebug.com/2011/07/18/firebug-1-8b6/ http://blog.getfirebug.com/2011/07/18/firebug-1-8b6/