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> I say just advertise it as “feeds”, not “RSS feeds”. I think that's even worse. For most ordinary people that has a bunch of unintended meanings. "My Faceboo

> I say just advertise it as “feeds”, not “RSS feeds”. I think that's even worse. For most ordinary people that has a bunch of unintended meanings. "My Facebook has a feed, do you mean subscribing to your site on Facebook? Why do I see a bunch of code when I click the link?"

slightwinder 5y ago
I think it's the oposite. People continuing calling it RSS is limiting there understanding of this domain. Most people are all about RSS this, reviving that and talk about the specific format, instead of the purpose for which RSS is actually used. This also leads to rather poor solutions and discussions which are just reinventing the old stuff again and again, instead of letting the domain evolve to match modern demand. Take for example this project here. Is there any feedreader out there who has this built-in to make it comfortable for the user to use this? The state of tooling as I know it is still at the level were we have seperate tools which pushes out a newsfeed-format, which than must be maintainend seperatly in our feedreaders. Which is an extraordinary hazzle to maintain configurations on multiple places.
- bscphil 5y ago
  > Take for example this project here. Is there any feedreader out there who has this built-in to make it comfortable for the user to use this? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question. This project is easy to use in all feed readers precisely because it just generates a feed URL that you can subscribe to like any other feed. On the other hand, maybe you're asking why the feed readers don't have this feature built in. Some of them do! The one I've used for years, Inoreader, has it, although it might be a premium feature. On the other other hand, sometimes it seems from your comment like your issue is with the very idea of RSS. That a website can publish a feed in a well-defined / open format and that feed can then be consumed by any conforming reader. That's as I see it the beauty of the whole system. I don't need to use the site itself, if it sucks. I can subscribe to anything I like using whatever software I like, rather than relying on a centralized service. What's the alternative, something like Twitter where I subscribe to a bunch of accounts and they push whatever they like into my feed?

slightwinder 5y ago

I think it's the oposite. People continuing calling it RSS is limiting there understanding of this domain. Most people are all about RSS this, reviving that and talk about the specific format, instead of the purpose for which RSS is actually used. This also leads to rather poor solutions and discussions which are just reinventing the old stuff again and again, instead of letting the domain evolve to match modern demand. Take for example this project here. Is there any feedreader out there who has this built-in to make it comfortable for the user to use this? The state of tooling as I know it is still at the level were we have seperate tools which pushes out a newsfeed-format, which than must be maintainend seperatly in our feedreaders. Which is an extraordinary hazzle to maintain configurations on multiple places.

bscphil 5y ago
> Take for example this project here. Is there any feedreader out there who has this built-in to make it comfortable for the user to use this? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question. This project is easy to use in all feed readers precisely because it just generates a feed URL that you can subscribe to like any other feed. On the other hand, maybe you're asking why the feed readers don't have this feature built in. Some of them do! The one I've used for years, Inoreader, has it, although it might be a premium feature. On the other other hand, sometimes it seems from your comment like your issue is with the very idea of RSS. That a website can publish a feed in a well-defined / open format and that feed can then be consumed by any conforming reader. That's as I see it the beauty of the whole system. I don't need to use the site itself, if it sucks. I can subscribe to anything I like using whatever software I like, rather than relying on a centralized service. What's the alternative, something like Twitter where I subscribe to a bunch of accounts and they push whatever they like into my feed?