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I have always wondered what would happen if one day Apple goes a bit too far and forces an influential company to pull their service from iOS devices. What woul

I have always wondered what would happen if one day Apple goes a bit too far and forces an influential company to pull their service from iOS devices. What would happen if, let's say, Facebook blocked iOS devices from using Instagram? Or if Google did the same thing with Search and YouTube? Does any other company have a way to push back if Apple gets too drunk on their own power in the future? Or is the Apple user satisfaction so high that nothing can make people ditch their iPhones?

neededsage 5y ago
Obviously can't speak for everyone, but I would definitely stay on Apple's platform even if some big names left (after all, most if not all are available as a web app still anyway). Doubly so if the big names are leaving over the collection of user data. Unfortunately, I don't think the vast majority of people care about privacy (in regards to corporate spying and tracking) and would likely jump ship.
- sitzkrieg 5y ago
  virtually all of the web based offerings are intentionally crippled or just bad these days though. i do not use apps when i can. installing them and not allowing notifications is pretty darn good but every single one ive used bugs me to enable notifications on a regular basis and i uninstall and try to tolerate web version again
errantmind 5y ago
I would switch to using an Apple device if they took that level of a principled stand on privacy. Until then I'm content with GrapheneOS.
ksec 5y ago
I have similar thought on the issue but it is unlikely going to happen. Google are still paying $10B per year just to be the default search engine on Apple. If every Smartphone user has a Facebook account, dropping Apple would equal to dropping 25% of Facebook users, and anywhere between 37.5% to 50% of Ads revenue considering iOS user are worth 1.5x to 2x multiple. >Does any other company have a way to push back if Apple gets too drunk on their own power in the future? Or is the Apple user satisfaction so high that nothing can make people ditch their iPhones? Would love to hear it if someone has any idea on this. I have been thinking about this every now and then for more than a few years now. Strategically speaking Apple is still indestructible. It is a rather sad reality within 10 years of Steve Jobs passing away Apple has turned into a monster.
908B64B197 5y ago
Half the US market? [0] and the market segment where most of the high net worth individuals are clustered? Someone would build an Instagram clone really fast! [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...
spideymans 5y ago
I'd be ecstatic if Facebook pulled their apps from iOS. Never again could my family bug me to install WhatsApp or Facebook.

neededsage 5y ago

Obviously can't speak for everyone, but I would definitely stay on Apple's platform even if some big names left (after all, most if not all are available as a web app still anyway). Doubly so if the big names are leaving over the collection of user data. Unfortunately, I don't think the vast majority of people care about privacy (in regards to corporate spying and tracking) and would likely jump ship.

sitzkrieg 5y ago
virtually all of the web based offerings are intentionally crippled or just bad these days though. i do not use apps when i can. installing them and not allowing notifications is pretty darn good but every single one ive used bugs me to enable notifications on a regular basis and i uninstall and try to tolerate web version again

errantmind 5y ago

I would switch to using an Apple device if they took that level of a principled stand on privacy. Until then I'm content with GrapheneOS.

ksec 5y ago

I have similar thought on the issue but it is unlikely going to happen. Google are still paying $10B per year just to be the default search engine on Apple. If every Smartphone user has a Facebook account, dropping Apple would equal to dropping 25% of Facebook users, and anywhere between 37.5% to 50% of Ads revenue considering iOS user are worth 1.5x to 2x multiple. >Does any other company have a way to push back if Apple gets too drunk on their own power in the future? Or is the Apple user satisfaction so high that nothing can make people ditch their iPhones? Would love to hear it if someone has any idea on this. I have been thinking about this every now and then for more than a few years now. Strategically speaking Apple is still indestructible. It is a rather sad reality within 10 years of Steve Jobs passing away Apple has turned into a monster.

908B64B197 5y ago

Half the US market? [0] and the market segment where most of the high net worth individuals are clustered? Someone would build an Instagram clone really fast! [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...

spideymans 5y ago

I'd be ecstatic if Facebook pulled their apps from iOS. Never again could my family bug me to install WhatsApp or Facebook.