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> To understand why, it’s important to realize the choice is not “vaccinate or do nothing.” It’s “vaccinate or eventually contract the coronavirus,” and the ris
by TechBro8615 5y ago
> To understand why, it’s important to realize the choice is not “vaccinate or do nothing.” It’s “vaccinate or eventually contract the coronavirus,” and the risks that come with it
Hmmmm. I'm not so sure about this. You can choose to continue self-isolating indefinitely. In this case the risk of exposure to covid is low. Sure, on an infinite timeline, you will catch it. But the longer you wait, the more data we will have. That includes data on "known unknowns," like long-term vaccine side effects, effects of long covid, and vaccine efficacy against new variants. But it also includes more data on "unknown unknowns," like potential long-term risks of the mRNA delivery mechanism, or new vaccines that have yet to be developed. Also, the longer you wait, the more other people get vaccinated and the more you benefit by leeching off herd immunity.
On an individual level, the choice is generally far more complicated than "get vaccine" or "get covid." Personally, as an under-30 with a low-exposure lifestyle, I'm waiting as long as possible to get the vaccine. I want to see more data on mRNA side effects – specifically, I'm worried that we're observing vascular inflammation, but doctors are unable to explain the mechanism causing it. To me, that means we don't understand the vaccines enough to eliminate sufficient "unknown unknowns." With that much uncertainty, combined with my very low exposure coefficient, I don't agree that the benefits of a vaccine outweigh the risks for me personally at this time. And an NYT columnist is not going to change my mind on that without a more rigorous analysis that allows adjusting for exposure risk and unknown unknowns.
- HWR_14 5y agoI agree the choice is slightly more complicated if you want to continue self-isolating forever. However, I've seen no data that suggests that the side effects of the vaccine are anything other than a less severe reaction of the immune response to COVID-19. If people want to self-isolate, I hope we can start enforcing that via limitations on going out without being vaccinated. If you stay in your own home and get food delivered, and never leave, I don't really care. I just don't want you going to stores/offices/events/restaurants with everyone else.
- yumraj 5y ago> I just don't want you going to stores/offices/events/restaurants with everyone else. Especially without a mask, as has started happening ever since CDC declared that vaccinated people don’t need to wear masks. In my case the choice was basically known risk vs unknown risk. With vaccines there is a known risk. So get the vaccine and listen to your body carefully over the next week or so and get medical help in needed. In the case of COVID-19 with the symptoms and long-COVID it’s just not clear where one will end up. Moreover it takes at least 5 weeks to develop immunity. So if schools/offices open and decide in-person instruction you need at least 5 week lead time which further complicates the decision.