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Let me help with some metrics about "things" you can install in your house: - However bad you think the security on them might be at some level, it's worse. A
by Syonyk 5y ago
Let me help with some metrics about "things" you can install in your house:
- However bad you think the security on them might be at some level, it's worse. A "factory reset" won't reliably clear data, the devices can be tricked into leaking all sorts of stuff, etc.
- No matter what the company selling them says, if it has hardware of some variety, Chekhov's Gun applies - at some point, that hardware will be used.
- You will be disappointed by the supported hardware life in terms of software updates. It will seem like someone has just gotten bored with updating it and doesn't care about the ewaste they're generating. That "last supported firmware" will eventually either have a massive security issue discovered (Western Digital is a recent example) or will talk to APIs that simply stop working at some point (I believe some Samsung "Smart Fridges" suffered this death).
There's no good reason to install this sort of stuff in a modern house if you care the slightest bit about privacy.
- slownews45 5y agoI care about privacy. I have an iphone. I've yet to hear of a leak of data after a factory reset - if there is a leak, why is the DOJ threatening Apple from time to get access to the contents of an iphone?
- Syonyk 5y agoAn iPhone is a better class of device than the typical Amazon/Google "Things" that are room mics with wifi. I don't know about Apple's version of that hardware in terms of security. Modern iOS devices are fairly resistant to data extraction - secure enclaves and such, and I wasn't talking about them. I don't know the state of Android security at the hardware level these days. Some years back, it was quite poor.
- slownews45 5y agoAndroid continues to be poor even today because implementations are so varied and often lowest common denominator / cheapest! That said, if you admin a group of users, a surprising number do not care about security. Turn on google's advanced protection - you will get more complaints than compliments as an example at the extra annoyances it introduces. Even for me, apple is now rediculous with its prompts for permissions. I've had to say yes 10+ times to get an apple watch setup. So the twitter mob messes things up by their "outrage" attacks. There should be one button, I'm OK with my apple devices tracking me (health, heart rate, sleep, steps etc etc). I wish the twitter mob would focus less on this sort of thing and more on the real bad actors (buying a TV, then it later starts tracking you, then starts pushing ads to you on your fully paid device). One problem is just that google / apple etc make much better outrage targets, so I think we've got this weird distortion - lots of gaping holes, and then constant attacks against Apple / Google.
- uglycoyote 5y agoWhat is the Western Digital example that your are referring to? I may have one or two of their products