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Right now in the US the biggest travesty is: (1) we have a large anti-vax movement that hasn't let us get to herd immunity. (2) the government has banned those

Right now in the US the biggest travesty is: (1) we have a large anti-vax movement that hasn't let us get to herd immunity. (2) the government has banned those under 12 from taking the vaccine. This creates a situation where now the only ones still taking a risk against their will is children. I have no idea how the idea of vaccine bans is still a "thing" after it failing in every way possible over the last 1.5 years. We need to learn a lesson and stop doing this.

hedora 5y ago
(1) At least it’ll help offset gerrymandering a bit. Note that we’ll have variants moving forward regardless of what the anti-vaxxers do, since variants generally come from reservoir populations, not humans. We don’t have any real hope of vaccinating all mammals. (2) They’re rushing through the approvals for ages 2-12 as quickly as they can. They don’t even know what the correct (safe but effective) dose is for that age group yet.
gizmo686 5y ago
What do you mean by 'vaccine ban'? We had one of those [0] when the vaccine first came out and we had limited supply. This has not been a thing for months. What we do have is an 'unapproved drug ban', and a policy of testing experimental drugs on adults first. The government significantly accelerated the process of getting the vaccines approved. What precisely are you proposing they do differently as a matter of policy next time? [0] Actually, many more than 1 as there was no federal plan, so each state came up with its own.
salawat 5y ago
How would children not be taking a risk against their will being forced to have a vaccine linked to acute myocarditis? (Pfizer) Public health is not an excuse to force things on people against their will. No one is hurt by continuing with mask culture, and until a child cohort study of sufficient size is completed, with no red flags we should continue to wait and see as the numbers roll in. I have no desire to see the mistakes of Thalidomide repeated. Do not fuck around recklessly with biology. It is more complex and unintuitive than your wildest imaginings. Given the Yolo approach applied with recent questionable approvals, FDA has some quality work to do.

hedora 5y ago

(1) At least it’ll help offset gerrymandering a bit. Note that we’ll have variants moving forward regardless of what the anti-vaxxers do, since variants generally come from reservoir populations, not humans. We don’t have any real hope of vaccinating all mammals. (2) They’re rushing through the approvals for ages 2-12 as quickly as they can. They don’t even know what the correct (safe but effective) dose is for that age group yet.

gizmo686 5y ago

What do you mean by 'vaccine ban'? We had one of those [0] when the vaccine first came out and we had limited supply. This has not been a thing for months. What we do have is an 'unapproved drug ban', and a policy of testing experimental drugs on adults first. The government significantly accelerated the process of getting the vaccines approved. What precisely are you proposing they do differently as a matter of policy next time? [0] Actually, many more than 1 as there was no federal plan, so each state came up with its own.

salawat 5y ago

How would children not be taking a risk against their will being forced to have a vaccine linked to acute myocarditis? (Pfizer) Public health is not an excuse to force things on people against their will. No one is hurt by continuing with mask culture, and until a child cohort study of sufficient size is completed, with no red flags we should continue to wait and see as the numbers roll in. I have no desire to see the mistakes of Thalidomide repeated. Do not fuck around recklessly with biology. It is more complex and unintuitive than your wildest imaginings. Given the Yolo approach applied with recent questionable approvals, FDA has some quality work to do.