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If there is any way you could do this with a dialup connection, then you have yourself a real golden opportunity... especially if there was no monthly fee for 5

by brfox 18y ago

If there is any way you could do this with a dialup connection, then you have yourself a real golden opportunity... especially if there was no monthly fee for 5 pics/month or something. I would buy one right now if it did this. My recently widowed grandmother doesn't have a computer, let alone a wi-fi connection...

edawerd 18y ago
We realize that there is sort of a disconnect between the people who buy this thing, and the people who this is intended for (i.e. grandma with no wifi). We're exploring possible avenues for this, including having low cost GSM connectivity so you can send upto a certain number of pictures w/o a fee
- joshwa 18y ago
  You should talk to Amazon-- they cut a similar deal for Kindle.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  I wouldn't worry too much about the subset of people who presumably have broadband (since they know what flickr/facebook, etc are in the first place) but not wifi. You could just sell a cheap router with it in a bundle for that. Grandma's have wifi these days too.
  - brfox 18y ago
    My grandma doesn't have a dialup ISP, a broadband connection, or even a computer, and I suspect that many folks are in that boat. Maybe something like this would be cool: http://www.usbackbone.net/wholesale_dial.htm http://www.usbackbone.net/wholesale_dial.htm and then you'd have to add the modem hardware to the frame... or maybe just sell a slightly more expensive model with an internal modem.
  - maxklein 18y ago
    Grandmas have wifi? You are out of touch with ordinary people.
    - mattmaroon 18y ago
      I know lots of senior citizens who have broadband and/or wifi. I guess not any who have grandkids my age, but lots of people who have children my age who have children themselves.
      - maxklein 18y ago
        That's the problem, isn't it. You know lots of people, so you have made the assumption that it's all that way. Well, I know lots of people who are my parents age who not only don't have the internet, but are only peripherally aware that it exists, and really have no interest in going on it. Just because you know lots of people who are a certain way does not mean it's that way. Remember, you are living in a world that is filtered - to a certain demographic, to a certain income level, to a certain intelligence level, to a certain ambition level and so on. There are huge other demographics that are also filtered in a certain way, and for them, the total opposite is true. For example, imagine an average high school dropout / labourer. His friends are unlikely to be college professors or other upper class, his friends are unlikely to be rich. His friends are most likely going to be similar to him. And their friends are similar to them. So you have this network of high school dropouts who are all linked to each other in one big demographic pool. And their parents will also fit in a certain profile, etc. So, no matter what you observe, first of all realise that it's filtered. Very few can say they are intimate with all classes of society. When you are born in a certain class, you may get poor or whatever, but your friends tend to stay from roughly the same class. It's like an article I read in a german magazine speaking about how universities are functioning as match-making institutions. The article spoke about how the path that leads to a person attending universities tends to bring people who are very similar to each other together - because each step of the way towards the university filters out people. So when they do arrive, you have a group of guys and a group of girls of similar intelligence, similar income level, similar ambition and so on. Perfect fits for each other. Same with most of us here. We are only on this site because we fullfil some criteria. That I could be here typing this comment on this website means I have matched a set of strict criteria that have filtered out a lot of people. So, the people you know are also people who would be friends with people who would have children that you would come in contact with. So the same filter mechanism that brought you here also acts on them. So, your observation can only be through the lens of your class, status, upbringing, intelligence, and education.
- watmough 18y ago
  yeah, if you have memory inside the frame, then you only need to download pictures once and cache, so gsm sounds like a great idea. if you get grandparents and family involved, then it could be a great driver for photo taking, maybe kodak would be interested.

by brfox 18y ago

edawerd 18y ago

We realize that there is sort of a disconnect between the people who buy this thing, and the people who this is intended for (i.e. grandma with no wifi). We're exploring possible avenues for this, including having low cost GSM connectivity so you can send upto a certain number of pictures w/o a fee

joshwa 18y ago
You should talk to Amazon-- they cut a similar deal for Kindle.
mattmaroon 18y ago
I wouldn't worry too much about the subset of people who presumably have broadband (since they know what flickr/facebook, etc are in the first place) but not wifi. You could just sell a cheap router with it in a bundle for that. Grandma's have wifi these days too.
- brfox 18y ago
  My grandma doesn't have a dialup ISP, a broadband connection, or even a computer, and I suspect that many folks are in that boat. Maybe something like this would be cool: http://www.usbackbone.net/wholesale_dial.htm http://www.usbackbone.net/wholesale_dial.htm and then you'd have to add the modem hardware to the frame... or maybe just sell a slightly more expensive model with an internal modem.
- maxklein 18y ago
  Grandmas have wifi? You are out of touch with ordinary people.
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    I know lots of senior citizens who have broadband and/or wifi. I guess not any who have grandkids my age, but lots of people who have children my age who have children themselves.
    - maxklein 18y ago
      That's the problem, isn't it. You know lots of people, so you have made the assumption that it's all that way. Well, I know lots of people who are my parents age who not only don't have the internet, but are only peripherally aware that it exists, and really have no interest in going on it. Just because you know lots of people who are a certain way does not mean it's that way. Remember, you are living in a world that is filtered - to a certain demographic, to a certain income level, to a certain intelligence level, to a certain ambition level and so on. There are huge other demographics that are also filtered in a certain way, and for them, the total opposite is true. For example, imagine an average high school dropout / labourer. His friends are unlikely to be college professors or other upper class, his friends are unlikely to be rich. His friends are most likely going to be similar to him. And their friends are similar to them. So you have this network of high school dropouts who are all linked to each other in one big demographic pool. And their parents will also fit in a certain profile, etc. So, no matter what you observe, first of all realise that it's filtered. Very few can say they are intimate with all classes of society. When you are born in a certain class, you may get poor or whatever, but your friends tend to stay from roughly the same class. It's like an article I read in a german magazine speaking about how universities are functioning as match-making institutions. The article spoke about how the path that leads to a person attending universities tends to bring people who are very similar to each other together - because each step of the way towards the university filters out people. So when they do arrive, you have a group of guys and a group of girls of similar intelligence, similar income level, similar ambition and so on. Perfect fits for each other. Same with most of us here. We are only on this site because we fullfil some criteria. That I could be here typing this comment on this website means I have matched a set of strict criteria that have filtered out a lot of people. So, the people you know are also people who would be friends with people who would have children that you would come in contact with. So the same filter mechanism that brought you here also acts on them. So, your observation can only be through the lens of your class, status, upbringing, intelligence, and education.
watmough 18y ago
yeah, if you have memory inside the frame, then you only need to download pictures once and cache, so gsm sounds like a great idea. if you get grandparents and family involved, then it could be a great driver for photo taking, maybe kodak would be interested.