Yes and this thinking still pervades the engineers that came of age in that era and did avoid programming. One of my coworkers is obsessed with outsourcing and

Yes and this thinking still pervades the engineers that came of age in that era and did avoid programming. One of my coworkers is obsessed with outsourcing and thinks of any programming task as being something that should be done in India. He asks why I should do something when we should hire a team in India, which is a ridiculous thing to say for so many reasons.