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I don't see how adding a simulation/God solves your issue? If a system cannot be self prescriptive/be without axioms/ (whatever you think the issue is) then ad

• tsegratis 5y ago
  Yes, it would need to be qualitively different Simply to be able to simulate the universe, or provide a basis for (however we describe the issue) already needs to an excessively stupendous amount of power -- but that is something still within the realms of physics I was suggesting (as essentially do you) that to break out of the nested simulations (or whatever formulation) takes something qualitively different to what this universe is able to even fully conceptualize My placation to God (aka universe simulator runner), is to say that clearly this thing exists (else we don't) and clearly it must be different and outside the universe to an extent that we can't describe it In the same way that a set can't describe it's aleph numbers -- So in brief, I'm agreeing that another layer of simulation doesn't cut it
  • CorrectHorseBat 5y ago
    I think I see now what you mean. I guess it just comes down to semantics then. I would say that, by definition (but I'm not sure if this is the most common definition), anything that can act upon the universe is part of it. Your God/simulator/... might be alien to us, but by definition it is part of our universe, and it's just us that do not entirely understand the capabilities of the universe.