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That is exactly what USDC is. People were attracted to this because it promised returns for using their stablecoin (IRON) if you put it into liquidity pools th
by TimJRobinson 5y ago
That is exactly what USDC is.
People were attracted to this because it promised returns for using their stablecoin (IRON) if you put it into liquidity pools that allowed others get IRON.
- user-the-name 5y agoWhat USDC claims to be. It has not been audited, and we do not know for a fact that this is true.
- lmohseni 5y agoI don’t understand why this comment was downvoted. USDC is just as undercollateralized as USDT. Everything you’re reading about USDT also applies tO USDC, just lagged.
- viraptor 5y agoCan you show the proof of that or a good reason existing audits cannot be trusted?
- user-the-name 5y agoNo audits exist, so this is a meaningless question. Attestations exist. They are not the same as an audit, and do not show quite what you seem to think they show.
- lmohseni 5y agoI can’t even find any existing audits. If you know of any or have read any I would be extremely interested.
- chews 5y agoHere are the attestations as of April. https://www.centre.io/usdc-transparency https://www.centre.io/usdc-transparency
- user-the-name 5y agoAgain, attestations are not audits.
- hbbio 5y agoI believe Grant Thorton is as reputable as an accounting corp can be (and funnily enough, the only ones who would be wary of them are crypto guys...). https://www.centre.io/hubfs/pdfs/attestation/Grant-Thorton_circle_usdc_reserves_06092021.pdf?hsLang=en https://www.centre.io/hubfs/pdfs/attestation/Grant-Thorton_c...
- user-the-name 5y agoThey may be, but they have never audited USDC.
- viraptor 5y agoThere's a monthly audit by a third party: https://www.centre.io/usdc-transparency https://www.centre.io/usdc-transparency
- user-the-name 5y ago> Top five accounting services firm Grant Thornton LLP issues attestations Attestations are not audits.
- xur17 5y agoWhat's the difference? Is an attestation at least better than what USDT provides?
- danbruc 5y agoI am not an expert, I just looked it up. If I understand it correctly, an attestation is just someone witnessing a legal act like the signing of a contract and testifying that the parties signing the contract are the ones named in the contract and that nobody was forced to sign it with a gun to his head and such. If this understanding is correct, then the attestations may just say that the company behind USDC prepared and signed those statements about their balances, but may say nothing about the correctness of those statements as they did not audit the company and therefore did not obtained independent evidence for the correctness of them. I read one of the attestation and would read it as saying something stronger and closer to an audit but I am not an legal expert and find the language used quite hard to parse. Maybe someone more qualified can expand on this.
- user-the-name 5y agoThis is what they claim, in the March 2021 report: "US Dollars held in custody accounts are the total balances in accounts held by the Company at federally insured US depository institutions and in approved investments on behalf of the USDC holders at the Report Date." Note the "and in approved investments". Not cash.
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- user-the-name 5y agoActually, I was mistaken. This is not even what USDC claims to be. What they claim, at the moment, is this: "US Dollars held in custody accounts are the total balances in accounts held by the Company at federally insured US depository institutions and in approved investments on behalf of the USDC holders at the Report Date." So the money is not in actual dollars. It is in entirely unspecified "approved investments".