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"To keep reading this story, get the free app or log in." Stuff like this should be banned from HN. Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste

"To keep reading this story, get the free app or log in." Stuff like this should be banned from HN. Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge?

thrthrthrow 5y ago
>>Stuff like this should be banned from HN. Agreed. Any sites with this kind of silly dark patterns need to be omitted or should be posted with a warning. Anyways. Here is an archive link so you can finish reading this article. https://archive.is/Bmlg6 https://archive.is/Bmlg6
c0ldf1ng3r 5y ago
>>Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? I "understand" your point, but you know, as a person who is dealing with depression my whole life i can tell you that depression can be a hard, real, lifelong challange too. Disability is one of the hardest things to deal with in my opinion, but i learned that it is better to not assume anything about other people struggles. Something that looks small for you may seem unbearable and hard for others and vice versa.
- mlang23 5y ago
  I hear what you are saying. However, I cant get rid of the feeling that this attitude of "everyones pain is important" actually leads to people falling in love with their various pains, instead of actually trying to fight them. Regarding depression. I had a phase of depression for several years, in addition to my disability. This gave me yet more incentive to fight the depression, because you know, being depressed and fucking blind isn't really a state you want to stay in. I realize everyone has their own story, and things feel differently to different people. But I cant get rid of the feeling that we are breeding unhappy people because we promise them support an every level, no matter what their story might be. IOW, I am not convinced that this new type of social pampering is actually healthy to the individual.
brainlessdev 5y ago
I use my own extension [0] to warn me about links to domains that I dislike, such as Medium. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nay/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nay/
SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
> Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? There's always someone with a problem they feel is worse. How would you feel if someone invalidated your feelings in that same way?
- mlang23 5y ago
  If they have a even harder life to manage, I have no problem accepting that. However, you will not find many people below me, so good luck with your "I will get you" argument.
kayodelycaon 5y ago
> I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? I’m bipolar. It’s rather severe and I’m non-functional without medication, hopelessly broke due to psychosis non-functional. If that isn’t a real lifelong challenge, well… life has a few different options to opt-out.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
At the moment the policy is "If there are ways to circumvent the paywall, it's OK to post", but yeah it seems to be a recurring annoyance.
mellosouls 5y ago
I get frustrated at the "light touch" wrt the workarounds rule on HN - I really believe OPs should be more engaged and expected to post an alternative as the first comment. Sometimes a thread goes for hours without somebody providing the info for those of us who can't access it. In this case though, this is just Medium; there are various workarounds as others have indicated, (e.g.) a simple one on Chrome is just to view it in a private tab. -- wrt your comment on physical disability vs (the implied "trivial") things like mental illness I have seen very severe instances of both close up and don't think your comparison is realistic or helpful.
throwaway_egbs 5y ago
> I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? Rethink this.
sachdevap 5y ago
Is having an abusive family grown up a real lifelong challenge? Is having poor brain chemistry leading you to making decisions you don't "want" to make a real enough challenge? Is crippling anxiety that prevents you from doing anything and not having emotional support to fight it difficult enough? Who are you to judge what a person's mind is feeling like? You have no way to know someone else's demons. So the bad taste in your mouth is no one else's doing.
- mlang23 5y ago
  You ask me who I am? I had a more complicated and fucked up life then 99% of the population, if not 99.99%. So I feel fucking qualified to tell others to get their shit together. Yes. And this nosey type of writing of yours is not going to change my mind.

thrthrthrow 5y ago

>>Stuff like this should be banned from HN. Agreed. Any sites with this kind of silly dark patterns need to be omitted or should be posted with a warning. Anyways. Here is an archive link so you can finish reading this article. https://archive.is/Bmlg6 https://archive.is/Bmlg6

c0ldf1ng3r 5y ago

>>Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? I "understand" your point, but you know, as a person who is dealing with depression my whole life i can tell you that depression can be a hard, real, lifelong challange too. Disability is one of the hardest things to deal with in my opinion, but i learned that it is better to not assume anything about other people struggles. Something that looks small for you may seem unbearable and hard for others and vice versa.

mlang23 5y ago
I hear what you are saying. However, I cant get rid of the feeling that this attitude of "everyones pain is important" actually leads to people falling in love with their various pains, instead of actually trying to fight them. Regarding depression. I had a phase of depression for several years, in addition to my disability. This gave me yet more incentive to fight the depression, because you know, being depressed and fucking blind isn't really a state you want to stay in. I realize everyone has their own story, and things feel differently to different people. But I cant get rid of the feeling that we are breeding unhappy people because we promise them support an every level, no matter what their story might be. IOW, I am not convinced that this new type of social pampering is actually healthy to the individual.

brainlessdev 5y ago

I use my own extension [0] to warn me about links to domains that I dislike, such as Medium. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nay/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nay/

SketchySeaBeast 5y ago

> Reading this as a person with disability leave a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? There's always someone with a problem they feel is worse. How would you feel if someone invalidated your feelings in that same way?

mlang23 5y ago
If they have a even harder life to manage, I have no problem accepting that. However, you will not find many people below me, so good luck with your "I will get you" argument.

kayodelycaon 5y ago

> I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? I’m bipolar. It’s rather severe and I’m non-functional without medication, hopelessly broke due to psychosis non-functional. If that isn’t a real lifelong challenge, well… life has a few different options to opt-out.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

At the moment the policy is "If there are ways to circumvent the paywall, it's OK to post", but yeah it seems to be a recurring annoyance.

mellosouls 5y ago

I get frustrated at the "light touch" wrt the workarounds rule on HN - I really believe OPs should be more engaged and expected to post an alternative as the first comment. Sometimes a thread goes for hours without somebody providing the info for those of us who can't access it. In this case though, this is just Medium; there are various workarounds as others have indicated, (e.g.) a simple one on Chrome is just to view it in a private tab. -- wrt your comment on physical disability vs (the implied "trivial") things like mental illness I have seen very severe instances of both close up and don't think your comparison is realistic or helpful.

throwaway_egbs 5y ago

> I wonder what people like this would do if faced with a real lifelong challenge? Rethink this.

sachdevap 5y ago

Is having an abusive family grown up a real lifelong challenge? Is having poor brain chemistry leading you to making decisions you don't "want" to make a real enough challenge? Is crippling anxiety that prevents you from doing anything and not having emotional support to fight it difficult enough? Who are you to judge what a person's mind is feeling like? You have no way to know someone else's demons. So the bad taste in your mouth is no one else's doing.

mlang23 5y ago
You ask me who I am? I had a more complicated and fucked up life then 99% of the population, if not 99.99%. So I feel fucking qualified to tell others to get their shit together. Yes. And this nosey type of writing of yours is not going to change my mind.