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There's no replacement for displacement. Most people see the subwoofer price tags and skip them. I got a 12" Dayton sub for $150. Worth every penny. I wish

There's no replacement for displacement. Most people see the subwoofer price tags and skip them. I got a 12" Dayton sub for $150. Worth every penny. I wish there were more closed enclosure subwoofers for lower group delay. Building seems like an intriguing route. There's a lot of theory that goes into design, so I'd have to find some time and passion for it. The passion is easy. Time, not so much.

bluescrn 5y ago
> Most people see the subwoofer price tags and skip them. Or they are aiming for good quality sound (in particular, clear dialogue) at relatively low volumes. In which case, adding a center speaker will be more beneficial than adding a sub. (Some of us have neighbours who really wouldn't appreciate us attempting to recreate a cinema-volume experience at home...)
- willis936 5y ago
  Subs don't need to be cranked up. You could simply enjoy hearing sub 100 Hz sounds at a reasonable volume. A center channel isn't needed to increase clarity. Buying a center channel speaker without first knowing your stereo speakers' radiation pattern and positioning them and your seating appropriately is a waste of money.
  - bob1029 5y ago
    The magical point of crossover is more like ~50Hz in my experience. If you can get mains that go as low as 50hz and you set crossovers properly, the chances that the subwoofer is going to screw up clarity/stereo imaging is really small. At that point it is more about making sure the kettle drums provide authentic presence (i.e. small cracks in your drywall).
grandinj 5y ago
I built a sealed box around a Sony 15 inch car speaker. Does a really nice job and didn’t need any theory because sealed boxes are inherently more tolerant.it’s a cube about 2 and something foot on a side. Knocked it together with nails and a jigsaw. Yeah I’m a really hack wood worker :)
- bob1029 5y ago
  You can actually get kits that are pretty hard to screw up these days: https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-18-Reference-Series-HO-Subwoofer-and-Cabinet-P-300-7094 https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-18-Reference-Seri... You'd be hard pressed to find something as good as that DIY kit for <$2000 in the retail marketplace.

bluescrn 5y ago

> Most people see the subwoofer price tags and skip them. Or they are aiming for good quality sound (in particular, clear dialogue) at relatively low volumes. In which case, adding a center speaker will be more beneficial than adding a sub. (Some of us have neighbours who really wouldn't appreciate us attempting to recreate a cinema-volume experience at home...)

willis936 5y ago
Subs don't need to be cranked up. You could simply enjoy hearing sub 100 Hz sounds at a reasonable volume. A center channel isn't needed to increase clarity. Buying a center channel speaker without first knowing your stereo speakers' radiation pattern and positioning them and your seating appropriately is a waste of money.
- bob1029 5y ago
  The magical point of crossover is more like ~50Hz in my experience. If you can get mains that go as low as 50hz and you set crossovers properly, the chances that the subwoofer is going to screw up clarity/stereo imaging is really small. At that point it is more about making sure the kettle drums provide authentic presence (i.e. small cracks in your drywall).

grandinj 5y ago

I built a sealed box around a Sony 15 inch car speaker. Does a really nice job and didn’t need any theory because sealed boxes are inherently more tolerant.it’s a cube about 2 and something foot on a side. Knocked it together with nails and a jigsaw. Yeah I’m a really hack wood worker :)

bob1029 5y ago
You can actually get kits that are pretty hard to screw up these days: https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-18-Reference-Series-HO-Subwoofer-and-Cabinet-P-300-7094 https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-18-Reference-Seri... You'd be hard pressed to find something as good as that DIY kit for <$2000 in the retail marketplace.