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They are betting on them in Japan, and they are using the olympic village as some kind of proof of concepts with both vehicles, but also residential energy prod

by Ma8ee 5y ago

They are betting on them in Japan, and they are using the olympic village as some kind of proof of concepts with both vehicles, but also residential energy production from hydrogen. And of course the Olympic torch will use hydrogen. Toyota are also betting on hydrogen. This is the reason why, even though they were early with hybrids, they still haven't released any purely electric cars.

varjag 5y ago
They did release BEV series.
radicalbyte 5y ago
Japan are building on Methane Hydrate as a strategic energy supply. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/japan-china-combustible-ice-frozen-fossil-fuel-extract-seafloor-energy-methane-hydrate-a7744456.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/japan-china-combu... We really are the most short sighted and stupid species, and only have ourselves to blame for what is to come.
- chartpath 5y ago
  Yeah wow, let's melt more ice to power stuff.
tonyedgecombe 5y ago
It feels like Toyota has made a massive miscalculation on this. They should have had a huge lead with all their experience of hybrids but now look like the are scrambling to catch up.
- Ma8ee 5y ago
  Time will. I think hydrogen has huge advantages for e.g. long haul trucks, for which batteries don’t seem to be reasonable. And they will drive the infrastructure.
fomine3 5y ago
For Toyota, the representative company of Japan, it's not easy decision to all in to BEV because of energy situation. Japan is going to be stuck for global decarbonize campaign because the land/grid is too small to make stable distributed renewables, and obviously nuclear is no longer future option. Making BEV (or Li-ON battery) is energy intensive so it won't competitive with other decarbonated countries for future carbon tax era. That's why they must investigating hydrogen, solid state battery, xEV, and so on rather than just BEV. Other companies investigating other techs like co2 collector. Investigating hydrogen for other uses like truck, ship, storage, emergency generator looks reasonable (Toyota also sell fuel cell system for various use), but still I doubt is they serious for hydrogen car like Mirai, or it's just a demo or for special case.

by Ma8ee 5y ago

varjag 5y ago

They did release BEV series.

radicalbyte 5y ago

Japan are building on Methane Hydrate as a strategic energy supply. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/japan-china-combustible-ice-frozen-fossil-fuel-extract-seafloor-energy-methane-hydrate-a7744456.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/japan-china-combu... We really are the most short sighted and stupid species, and only have ourselves to blame for what is to come.

chartpath 5y ago
Yeah wow, let's melt more ice to power stuff.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago

It feels like Toyota has made a massive miscalculation on this. They should have had a huge lead with all their experience of hybrids but now look like the are scrambling to catch up.

Ma8ee 5y ago
Time will. I think hydrogen has huge advantages for e.g. long haul trucks, for which batteries don’t seem to be reasonable. And they will drive the infrastructure.

fomine3 5y ago

For Toyota, the representative company of Japan, it's not easy decision to all in to BEV because of energy situation. Japan is going to be stuck for global decarbonize campaign because the land/grid is too small to make stable distributed renewables, and obviously nuclear is no longer future option. Making BEV (or Li-ON battery) is energy intensive so it won't competitive with other decarbonated countries for future carbon tax era. That's why they must investigating hydrogen, solid state battery, xEV, and so on rather than just BEV. Other companies investigating other techs like co2 collector. Investigating hydrogen for other uses like truck, ship, storage, emergency generator looks reasonable (Toyota also sell fuel cell system for various use), but still I doubt is they serious for hydrogen car like Mirai, or it's just a demo or for special case.