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this is the worse take I've seen so far

by make3 5y ago

corobo 5y ago
Could you explain why or do you just want to feel superior? Both good choices honestly but I'd love to know your actual thoughts If I'm wrong tell me why and I'll happily reevaluate my opinion, promise :)
- scoopertrooper 5y ago
  Are you aware co-pilot is still in preview? It's a bit harsh to make sweeping statements along the lines of 'it's just a fancy markov bot' based on a few well-publicised glitches in a technical preview. I assume you have built something surpassing the scope and ambition of co-pilot before, not just some armchair tech lead throwing shade.
  - corobo 5y ago
    Fair point on the sweeping statement, I'll rein it in Thinking about it the main factor is an emotional one. I'm disappointed. Butthurt if you will. It sounded great but it tripped over so far away from the finish line that I've turned against it. I'll excuse myself from any further copilot threads Of course I can never meet the requirements of your post wanting something more impressive than Copilot. Copilot itself falls far short of that. Nothing I give you will be enough as there'll be flaws you will attack to make your point. Bit of a time sink that, lets just assume you're right :) No, I've never successfully built anything as ambitious as, and definitely nothing surpassing, copilot. Have I tried? Absolutely. Have I failed? So far yes. Of course by that logic though I still win this conversation if you've not succeeded in making anything more ambitious than my failed projects, is that correct? :P For the sake of not wanting to come off as blagging (also I want the holes poked in this one tbf) my most ambitious project I've not figured out how to make work yet is a new (afaik) type of business model: cohan.me/profit-share
- make3 5y ago
  Well, my understanding is that your point is that it's not useful and only regurgitates code it already saw. That's super false, it's useful tool that generates code in a very context sensitive manner. Not always perfect, and in alpha, but still very useful. The full copying only results from people actively probing the model to output copies of the code, and they made it work for very famous code that's been copied around github a bunch of times. That doesn't make it a non-useful piece of software.
  - corobo 5y ago
    > that generates code in a very context sensitive manner That's why I compared it to a markov chain aye In any case I've come to the conclusion my hater attitude is fueled by disappointment, so maybe it was the worst take from this whole thing. I'll avoid future copilot threads
    - make3 5y ago
      markov chains model n grams.. this is really much better
      - corobo 5y ago
        Yes I was trying to be insulting at the time, which was wrong

this is the worse take I've seen so far

by make3 5y ago

this is the worse take I've seen so far

Could you explain why or do you just want to feel superior? Both good choices honestly but I'd love to know your actual thoughts If I'm wrong tell me why and I'll happily reevaluate my opinion, promise :)

scoopertrooper 5y ago
Are you aware co-pilot is still in preview? It's a bit harsh to make sweeping statements along the lines of 'it's just a fancy markov bot' based on a few well-publicised glitches in a technical preview. I assume you have built something surpassing the scope and ambition of co-pilot before, not just some armchair tech lead throwing shade.
- corobo 5y ago
  Fair point on the sweeping statement, I'll rein it in Thinking about it the main factor is an emotional one. I'm disappointed. Butthurt if you will. It sounded great but it tripped over so far away from the finish line that I've turned against it. I'll excuse myself from any further copilot threads Of course I can never meet the requirements of your post wanting something more impressive than Copilot. Copilot itself falls far short of that. Nothing I give you will be enough as there'll be flaws you will attack to make your point. Bit of a time sink that, lets just assume you're right :) No, I've never successfully built anything as ambitious as, and definitely nothing surpassing, copilot. Have I tried? Absolutely. Have I failed? So far yes. Of course by that logic though I still win this conversation if you've not succeeded in making anything more ambitious than my failed projects, is that correct? :P For the sake of not wanting to come off as blagging (also I want the holes poked in this one tbf) my most ambitious project I've not figured out how to make work yet is a new (afaik) type of business model: cohan.me/profit-share
make3 5y ago
Well, my understanding is that your point is that it's not useful and only regurgitates code it already saw. That's super false, it's useful tool that generates code in a very context sensitive manner. Not always perfect, and in alpha, but still very useful. The full copying only results from people actively probing the model to output copies of the code, and they made it work for very famous code that's been copied around github a bunch of times. That doesn't make it a non-useful piece of software.
- corobo 5y ago
  > that generates code in a very context sensitive manner That's why I compared it to a markov chain aye In any case I've come to the conclusion my hater attitude is fueled by disappointment, so maybe it was the worst take from this whole thing. I'll avoid future copilot threads
  - make3 5y ago
    markov chains model n grams.. this is really much better
    - corobo 5y ago
      Yes I was trying to be insulting at the time, which was wrong