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> "privacy and security go hand-in-hand", which is plainly obvious and supported by history and data. This doesn't seem to be true. Privacy here means "user pr
by SquishyPanda23 5y ago
> "privacy and security go hand-in-hand", which is plainly obvious and supported by history and data.
This doesn't seem to be true. Privacy here means "user privacy" whereas security means the security of the systems holding the user data.
Almost any system that hold large amounts of user data is a counter example. Such systems are typically highly secured but are antagonistic to user privacy.
- simondotau 5y agoYou are correct that privacy is not necessary for security. But here, Apple is arguing that security is necessary for privacy. This seems to me obviously true. If a system isn't secure, it cannot safely store private data. Think about this in the extreme: imagine your computation platform is a virtual machine on a hypervisor controlled by your adversary. There would be no way to use this platform to safely interact with your private data.
- GuB-42 5y agoIt is definitely true. A good example, since we are talking about Apple is "the fappening". A massive leak of celebrity photos, including nudes, coming from compromised personal iCloud accounts. It is an obvious attack on privacy, made possible by poor security. Now, you can tell me that the best way to respect privacy is not to store user data, and it certainly helps, but if your software is insecure, it may be used to harvest passwords or do all sorts of nasty stuff. In other words, maybe you don't store anything but hackers will. You can't guarantee privacy without security. And even for companies with poor privacy practices, with security, only authorized people can spy on you, without it, anyone can do it.
- saagarjha 5y agoThat’s a pretty poor example considering we’re talking about a spearphishing campaign.