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I think this is a pretty decent summary, but I do genuinely have one factual question here: > Many homeless people defecate and urinate freely in public becaus
by adjkant 5y ago
I think this is a pretty decent summary, but I do genuinely have one factual question here:
> Many homeless people defecate and urinate freely in public because the police have simply stopped issuing citations for such behavior.
What was a citation doing previously on this given that homeless people would simply ignore a citation? Has this actually increased in a way we can measure? I haven't been in SF since the pandemic, but none of my friends have complained about this in the area, and it seems to me like this assessment appears to be very much split on agreement by political lines.
I'm also skeptical of this because I've seen claims of this in my current city (NYC) yet have not seen and general increase save one neighborhood, Times Square. From what I gather, the business district of SF (SOMA) might also just be getting a slight increase here, expanding out from the tenderloin which has always had this as far as the past decade is concerned. Is there anything more widespread than that? It seems like that simply was due to the lack of people actually working in both areas now due to the pandemic, not any police enforcement.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago>"What was a citation doing previously on this given that homeless people would simply ignore a citation? Has this actually increased in a way we can measure?" I cannot provide you with an empirical answer, but I can give you an anecdote from a small business owner. That citation used to come with other consequences such as an arrest and a court date. So, many homeless people knew that it was better to do 'their business' somewhere out of sight rather than have to deal with the police. But now that the police don't show up for such things, why bother trying to be discreet?
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoNot sure if fake or real: [1] https://twitter.com/BrebDaily/status/1411561425110126593 https://twitter.com/BrebDaily/status/1411561425110126593 If real, then at least in NYC 'their potty training' persists.