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We need to start organizing and go on the offensive: abolish copyright and patents through a constitutional amendment— http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectu

by breck 5y ago

We need to start organizing and go on the offensive: abolish copyright and patents through a constitutional amendment— http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendment.html http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendmen... If you’re wondering how to get the public to support it, we need to start spreading the truth. The opioid crisis kicked off by Purdue? Wouldn’t have happened without USPTO. Big tech monopolists? They get their monopoly power from IS laws. The list goes and on. IS laws choke the flow of information through the nervous system of the world and we feel it’s consequences all over the place.

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
Linking to your own website is fine and all, but not exactly a reference. And it’s hilariously short sighted. Without patent and copywrite protections, you’ll instantly see innovation come out of places where people are paid for their work. US offloading it’s manufacturing in a short sighted move to cheap labor and head-in-sand environmental outlook - sure, let’s kill the design industries too now too. There is a problem with how papers are shared and the orgs that control archiving and release. That doesn’t mean all patents must be thrown out.
- mbar84 5y ago
  The balance of cost and benefits is not as clear as you may think. https://questioncopyright.org/ https://questioncopyright.org/ http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  If going patent-free is good enough for the transistor… Do you have any rebuttal to parent’s points on Purdue and tech monopolies?
  - TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
    Yes, of course. Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO? Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics? Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not? Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents and not on massive spending power, political leverage, and other influencing mechanisms? Do you not understand that if you have the spending power, you can open-source your code and IP without even remotely endangering that monopoly? The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets. It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that. And none of this has much to do with making scientific papers public domain - because that isn't even the same class of issue.
    - breck 5y ago
      > Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO? The legal ones do, absolutely. > Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics? "get an audience for our patent infringement suits so that we are feared as a tiger with claws, teeth and balls, and build some excitement with prescribers that OxyContin Tablets is the way to go." Richard Sackler in a 1996 email. I do not see OxyContin situations in a world with intellectual freedom, no. No government enforced monopoly profits, no massive incentive to overprescribe and lie. No copyright, and you get far more honest media, education, and healthcare industries. > Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not? Maybe it's far more of a problem that is generally known, but that truth is not made apparent because we don't have true freedom of the press b/c of copyright laws. > Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents On patents and copyrights. If we were to declare tomorrow that search engines did not have to respect copyright law, we would see far better search engines than Google in a year or less. > The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets. Patents deter a huge number of startups from forming. Nearly every successful startup I know of gets targetted by patent trolls, and must decide to play that game and go along with the system. This is very discouraging to a huge number of innovators, especially in critical fields like chip design. > It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that. Not a magical bus ride to utopia, but a doubling to perhaps 10x increase in human productivity and equality, yes.
nhooyr 5y ago
What is IS law?
- greyface- 5y ago
  It seems to stand for "Intellectual Slavery": https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Abreck%20%22intellectual%20slavery%22&type=all https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Abreck%20%22intellectual%20sla...
syshum 5y ago
For the US, the fast path would be to push for all Federally Funded Research to be published under a Public Domain License, no different than NASA Images, recordings, or other public agency created research. We need to extend those provisions to include all research that gets federal tax money
- deleted 5y ago
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- ta988 5y ago
  Thod is already true for NIH funded research after a one year embargo. But yes I would support that. Authors have to sign away the rights to their own texts and pictures to publishers! not just sharing rights like you do when putting a.picture on twitter, no... giving your full rights...

by breck 5y ago

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago

Linking to your own website is fine and all, but not exactly a reference. And it’s hilariously short sighted. Without patent and copywrite protections, you’ll instantly see innovation come out of places where people are paid for their work. US offloading it’s manufacturing in a short sighted move to cheap labor and head-in-sand environmental outlook - sure, let’s kill the design industries too now too. There is a problem with how papers are shared and the orgs that control archiving and release. That doesn’t mean all patents must be thrown out.

mbar84 5y ago
The balance of cost and benefits is not as clear as you may think. https://questioncopyright.org/ https://questioncopyright.org/ http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm
jazzyjackson 5y ago
If going patent-free is good enough for the transistor… Do you have any rebuttal to parent’s points on Purdue and tech monopolies?
- TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
  Yes, of course. Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO? Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics? Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not? Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents and not on massive spending power, political leverage, and other influencing mechanisms? Do you not understand that if you have the spending power, you can open-source your code and IP without even remotely endangering that monopoly? The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets. It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that. And none of this has much to do with making scientific papers public domain - because that isn't even the same class of issue.
  - breck 5y ago
    > Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO? The legal ones do, absolutely. > Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics? "get an audience for our patent infringement suits so that we are feared as a tiger with claws, teeth and balls, and build some excitement with prescribers that OxyContin Tablets is the way to go." Richard Sackler in a 1996 email. I do not see OxyContin situations in a world with intellectual freedom, no. No government enforced monopoly profits, no massive incentive to overprescribe and lie. No copyright, and you get far more honest media, education, and healthcare industries. > Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not? Maybe it's far more of a problem that is generally known, but that truth is not made apparent because we don't have true freedom of the press b/c of copyright laws. > Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents On patents and copyrights. If we were to declare tomorrow that search engines did not have to respect copyright law, we would see far better search engines than Google in a year or less. > The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets. Patents deter a huge number of startups from forming. Nearly every successful startup I know of gets targetted by patent trolls, and must decide to play that game and go along with the system. This is very discouraging to a huge number of innovators, especially in critical fields like chip design. > It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that. Not a magical bus ride to utopia, but a doubling to perhaps 10x increase in human productivity and equality, yes.

nhooyr 5y ago

What is IS law?

greyface- 5y ago
It seems to stand for "Intellectual Slavery": https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Abreck%20%22intellectual%20slavery%22&type=all https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Abreck%20%22intellectual%20sla...

syshum 5y ago

For the US, the fast path would be to push for all Federally Funded Research to be published under a Public Domain License, no different than NASA Images, recordings, or other public agency created research. We need to extend those provisions to include all research that gets federal tax money

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ta988 5y ago
Thod is already true for NIH funded research after a one year embargo. But yes I would support that. Authors have to sign away the rights to their own texts and pictures to publishers! not just sharing rights like you do when putting a.picture on twitter, no... giving your full rights...