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Allowing people to vote on issues they care about would be a disaster. We'd have the death penalty back in a week, and abortion/immigration/drugs outlawed in a

Allowing people to vote on issues they care about would be a disaster. We'd have the death penalty back in a week, and abortion/immigration/drugs outlawed in a month. Democracy doesn't work because the masses are smart and get to have their say. They work because democracies are an agreement that we can do anything in our power to change the government EXCEPT violence. Making the government more responsive to the population will result in worse government, not better. I'm not advocating for totalitarianism. I'm just cautioning against thinking that it's the wisdom of the people that makes good democracy.

blooalien 5y ago
When the people making the decisions actually know about the things they're deciding on, democracy can work great. When the decisions are made by people who know nothing about the topic but are totally convinced they know everything about it no matter how completely wrong they may be and no matter how many provable facts you face them with, democracy fails utterly.
chr1 5y ago
What voteflux proposes is not simply direct democracy where opinion of the people who don't care enough to not go to ballot box is simply discarded. Votes still can be delegated, by setting your vote to follow vote of the person you trust, changes require significant majority, not simply 50%+1, people can trade their votes on different issues to reach consensus, major changes can't be accepted in a week if there is significant opposition, and most importantly different regions will be able to choose different laws. Now issues like abortion/immigration/drugs are used like carrot by politicians to herd voters one way or the other, and politician elected to as a result of support of one issue ends up voting on lots of other issues in a way that absolute majority of voters do not like. Voteflux being a marketplace of votes, can allow people with different beliefs to find compromises with each other, will allow politicians to understand what people actually want instead of guessing based on number of angry letters/tweets, and will allow people to organize in a way to have different laws in different places allowing society to experiment with different things instead of fighting life and death battle each election.

blooalien 5y ago

When the people making the decisions actually know about the things they're deciding on, democracy can work great. When the decisions are made by people who know nothing about the topic but are totally convinced they know everything about it no matter how completely wrong they may be and no matter how many provable facts you face them with, democracy fails utterly.

chr1 5y ago

What voteflux proposes is not simply direct democracy where opinion of the people who don't care enough to not go to ballot box is simply discarded. Votes still can be delegated, by setting your vote to follow vote of the person you trust, changes require significant majority, not simply 50%+1, people can trade their votes on different issues to reach consensus, major changes can't be accepted in a week if there is significant opposition, and most importantly different regions will be able to choose different laws. Now issues like abortion/immigration/drugs are used like carrot by politicians to herd voters one way or the other, and politician elected to as a result of support of one issue ends up voting on lots of other issues in a way that absolute majority of voters do not like. Voteflux being a marketplace of votes, can allow people with different beliefs to find compromises with each other, will allow politicians to understand what people actually want instead of guessing based on number of angry letters/tweets, and will allow people to organize in a way to have different laws in different places allowing society to experiment with different things instead of fighting life and death battle each election.