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> It starts in childhood for most people, and parents who foster an environment full of soda, junk food, and other sugar/carb/sat fat/salt/alcohol laden foods b

> It starts in childhood for most people, and parents who foster an environment full of soda, junk food, and other sugar/carb/sat fat/salt/alcohol laden foods basically decide their kids’ future for the most part. Do you have a citation (preferably one that tries to control for genetics, but I'd appreciate any)?

lotsofpulp 5y ago
It is a conjecture from my observations, and I guess I should note that I am not qualified in this field to make official statements. But I think the formula of “sleep right, eat right, excercise right, in that order” is pretty accurate. “Sleep right” contains the stress portion of being healthy. I do not even know if a proper controlled experiment could be conducted for such a complicated topic with our current technology. I just look at the habits of people I think are doing it right, and try to tease out the commonalities. Discipline is really the one trait that I guess leads to success in the above process, and probably everything else in life. Who knows how much of that is nature vs nurture.
- anonuser123456 5y ago
  >Discipline is really the one trait that I guess leads to success in the above process, and probably everything else in life. Who knows how much of that is nature vs nurture. There was a recent EconTalk podcast about this. The author/guest is an expert in this type of behavioral change. Her opinion (which is the most informed I've read), is that discipline is not very important trait w.r.t. behavioral modification. Discipline is an active process and one must be constantly vigilant at a cortical level to execute it. Her view was situational control was the most important. With situational control, we learn to not put ourselves into situations beyond our control. For example, not buying a bag of Doritos is _MUCH_ easier than not eating a bag of Doritos sitting in front of you. Not going to a Casino is _MUCH_ easier than not gambling away all your cash for a gambling addict. Some thing for alcoholics etc.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    Yes, that is what I meant by my initial post. “You are the company you keep” is one of the most true sayings, in my opinion. Unfortunately (and fortunately) that includes the parents and family one is born into. If you are lucky enough to have parents that sparingly eat Doritos or soda and do not keep it in the house, I assume that it will have a greater likelihood of rubbing off on the children.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

It is a conjecture from my observations, and I guess I should note that I am not qualified in this field to make official statements. But I think the formula of “sleep right, eat right, excercise right, in that order” is pretty accurate. “Sleep right” contains the stress portion of being healthy. I do not even know if a proper controlled experiment could be conducted for such a complicated topic with our current technology. I just look at the habits of people I think are doing it right, and try to tease out the commonalities. Discipline is really the one trait that I guess leads to success in the above process, and probably everything else in life. Who knows how much of that is nature vs nurture.

anonuser123456 5y ago
>Discipline is really the one trait that I guess leads to success in the above process, and probably everything else in life. Who knows how much of that is nature vs nurture. There was a recent EconTalk podcast about this. The author/guest is an expert in this type of behavioral change. Her opinion (which is the most informed I've read), is that discipline is not very important trait w.r.t. behavioral modification. Discipline is an active process and one must be constantly vigilant at a cortical level to execute it. Her view was situational control was the most important. With situational control, we learn to not put ourselves into situations beyond our control. For example, not buying a bag of Doritos is _MUCH_ easier than not eating a bag of Doritos sitting in front of you. Not going to a Casino is _MUCH_ easier than not gambling away all your cash for a gambling addict. Some thing for alcoholics etc.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Yes, that is what I meant by my initial post. “You are the company you keep” is one of the most true sayings, in my opinion. Unfortunately (and fortunately) that includes the parents and family one is born into. If you are lucky enough to have parents that sparingly eat Doritos or soda and do not keep it in the house, I assume that it will have a greater likelihood of rubbing off on the children.