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And if it turns out that people are using youtube to convince others to take a treatment that is ineffective and leads to death and injury (including through re

by evgen 5y ago

And if it turns out that people are using youtube to convince others to take a treatment that is ineffective and leads to death and injury (including through replacement of known-good treatment with an ineffctive placebo) then those people who spread the misinformation should also be sued. I like where this is going, a real 'put your money where your mouth is' situation.

nojokes 5y ago
We do not know for sure what is the actual effect of this drug. There are many under powered studies that indicate that the effect might be positive. Good news is that Bill and Melinda Gates Fund supported study is trying to find this out https://trialsitenews.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-global-ivermectin-fluvoxamine-clinical-trial-targeting-covid-19-together-covid-19-trial/ https://trialsitenews.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-global...
- evgen 5y ago
  There are some bad studies that suggest it might be effective and some equally questionable studies that indicate it raises the risk of death. Right now there are two meta-analysis that come to different conclusions based on how they weight the studies. Like the hydroxychloroquine BS from last year, there are question to be answered and several real studies have started (including one being done by Oxford in the UK) so hopefully we will learn answers. OTOH, baseless claims of this being a cheap cure help no one -- if invermectin's efficacy was as obvious as claimed it would show up quickly and be easy to demonstrate, but the fact that we need to go into meta-analysis based on a bunch of questionable surveillance studies is a strong signal that the effect, if any, is small.
effie 5y ago
> if it turns out that people are using youtube to convince others to take a treatment that is ineffective and leads to death and injury Straw man, nobody is proposing/defending that.

by evgen 5y ago

nojokes 5y ago

We do not know for sure what is the actual effect of this drug. There are many under powered studies that indicate that the effect might be positive. Good news is that Bill and Melinda Gates Fund supported study is trying to find this out https://trialsitenews.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-global-ivermectin-fluvoxamine-clinical-trial-targeting-covid-19-together-covid-19-trial/ https://trialsitenews.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-global...

evgen 5y ago
There are some bad studies that suggest it might be effective and some equally questionable studies that indicate it raises the risk of death. Right now there are two meta-analysis that come to different conclusions based on how they weight the studies. Like the hydroxychloroquine BS from last year, there are question to be answered and several real studies have started (including one being done by Oxford in the UK) so hopefully we will learn answers. OTOH, baseless claims of this being a cheap cure help no one -- if invermectin's efficacy was as obvious as claimed it would show up quickly and be easy to demonstrate, but the fact that we need to go into meta-analysis based on a bunch of questionable surveillance studies is a strong signal that the effect, if any, is small.

effie 5y ago

> if it turns out that people are using youtube to convince others to take a treatment that is ineffective and leads to death and injury Straw man, nobody is proposing/defending that.