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Well, I find many of the experiments on mice to be totally messed up and the justifications arbitrary. I do not therefore find this one more absurd. I think the

Well, I find many of the experiments on mice to be totally messed up and the justifications arbitrary. I do not therefore find this one more absurd. I think the pushback due to “male pregnancy with multiple surgeries” is unwarranted, unless all mice experiments are also called into question. It is useful to find that uterus + pregnancy blood = major contributing factors to carrying a fetus to full term regardless of sex, as it rules many things out. It is useful criticism to understand these are not the only factors. In that light the experiment was a success and not unnecessary, unless all mice experiments are equally called into question.

Ericson2314 5y ago
Yes this did seem excessively grizzly, but then all the pushback in the latter half was on "male pregnancy", which was awfully suspicious. Maybe it would be good to find some other conjoined circulatory systems + organ transplant studies for context.
hall0ween 5y ago
"all mice studies" is broad. i've been a part of humane behavioral studies with rats. hell there's a "do rats laugh" study out there, and the answer is yes. what I'm saying is there's a broad assortment of rodent studies, that vary in terms of mutilation or usefulness to society. this one rates high (especially wrt to the projects i've been a part of) on the mutilation scale and low on the usefulness scale. imagine being one of a "parabionts" throughout the gestation period of a human baby. it's not feasible.