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By this proposal's logic, it would make total sense for processes on a boosting CPU core to report more than 100% cpu usage.

by phire 5y ago

freeone3000 5y ago
This used to be the case -- XP era had it report as a percentage of the target frequency, so an Athlon XP would usually run at 110%. This is confusing to people who believe 100% is the maximum.
- ithkuil 5y ago
  "these go to eleven!" https://youtu.be/hW008FcKr3Q https://youtu.be/hW008FcKr3Q
bigiain 5y ago
“Military power “ seems to fit perfectly… > The etiology of military power is from War Emergency Power (WEP) which in the WWII era was a higher than normal rating power (i.e. >100% rated power) setting on an aircraft engine. Such power settings were approved for short durations (typically 5 minutes or less) such as takeoff and battle maneuvers. > The term was quickly shortened to military power.
- Godel_unicode 5y ago
  Please let's not add yet more military fetishizing to IT. "Military power" should refer to things like military engines, not totally unrelated electronic performance boost modes.
  - deviledeggs 5y ago
    IT overlap is mostly because computers and the internet are military technology. Mainframes, IC's and the transistor itself were bankrolled by US military money. The internet and GPS, the core technologies of our time, are both direct descendants of the US military. You may not like it, but the entire IT and tech field are built on US military tech
    - ithkuil 5y ago
      Civilian and military engineering history are intertwined. The tech transfer doesn't go one way only. In ancient times both mercantile and military incentives propelled the design of ships. Is fair to say the whole ship building field built on military tech?
    - Godel_unicode 5y ago
      You're just picking a point in time and calling that the beginning; every one of those things is based on previous tech with no military background. Even if it were true that in the distant past a thing had a military application/funding, there's no reason to use their terms for new things which aren't military in nature. No commercial liner calls it's full speed "military power". It's just cosplay at this point.
      - deviledeggs 5y ago
        If you go far enough back all of our technology arises from fire and the wheel. There's plenty of room to debate how much of our technology came from the military, but I don't think naming is a big deal. Take the word "screen" for example. The original meaning was a partition to protect from heat. Many of these were fabric, and led to "magic lantern" shows done with shadows. The word was repurposed again for the projection era. And yet again for tube TV's and beyond. If you told somebody from 100 years ago to look at the screen they would have no idea what you're talking about because the original meaning is lost. That's why I don't think it matters whether we use military terms for computer stuff. It doesn't have its original meaning anymore.
        Godel_unicode 5y ago
        > I don't think naming is a big deal Good, we agree, no more tacti-cool cosplaying in IT.
- bserge 5y ago
  "Overdrive"
  - thrower123 5y ago
    Turbo. I miss the old turbo button, even when it didn't actually do much of anything.
    - arein3 5y ago
      turbo actually slowed the cpu to 4.77 MHz (the speed of 8086/8088) because early programs's timing logic were based on 4.77 MHz clock frequency
matheusmoreira 5y ago
Linux control groups and systemd CPU quotas use values larger than 100% for denoting more than one CPU. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.resource-control.html https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.res... > The percentage specifies how much CPU time the unit shall get at maximum, relative to the total CPU time available on one CPU. Use values > 100% for allotting CPU time on more than one CPU.

By this proposal's logic, it would make total sense for processes on a boosting CPU core to report more than 100% cpu usage.

by phire 5y ago

By this proposal's logic, it would make total sense for processes on a boosting CPU core to report more than 100% cpu usage.

freeone3000 5y ago

This used to be the case -- XP era had it report as a percentage of the target frequency, so an Athlon XP would usually run at 110%. This is confusing to people who believe 100% is the maximum.

ithkuil 5y ago
"these go to eleven!" https://youtu.be/hW008FcKr3Q https://youtu.be/hW008FcKr3Q

bigiain 5y ago

“Military power “ seems to fit perfectly… > The etiology of military power is from War Emergency Power (WEP) which in the WWII era was a higher than normal rating power (i.e. >100% rated power) setting on an aircraft engine. Such power settings were approved for short durations (typically 5 minutes or less) such as takeoff and battle maneuvers. > The term was quickly shortened to military power.

Godel_unicode 5y ago
Please let's not add yet more military fetishizing to IT. "Military power" should refer to things like military engines, not totally unrelated electronic performance boost modes.
- deviledeggs 5y ago
  IT overlap is mostly because computers and the internet are military technology. Mainframes, IC's and the transistor itself were bankrolled by US military money. The internet and GPS, the core technologies of our time, are both direct descendants of the US military. You may not like it, but the entire IT and tech field are built on US military tech
  - ithkuil 5y ago
    Civilian and military engineering history are intertwined. The tech transfer doesn't go one way only. In ancient times both mercantile and military incentives propelled the design of ships. Is fair to say the whole ship building field built on military tech?
  - Godel_unicode 5y ago
    You're just picking a point in time and calling that the beginning; every one of those things is based on previous tech with no military background. Even if it were true that in the distant past a thing had a military application/funding, there's no reason to use their terms for new things which aren't military in nature. No commercial liner calls it's full speed "military power". It's just cosplay at this point.
    - deviledeggs 5y ago
      If you go far enough back all of our technology arises from fire and the wheel. There's plenty of room to debate how much of our technology came from the military, but I don't think naming is a big deal. Take the word "screen" for example. The original meaning was a partition to protect from heat. Many of these were fabric, and led to "magic lantern" shows done with shadows. The word was repurposed again for the projection era. And yet again for tube TV's and beyond. If you told somebody from 100 years ago to look at the screen they would have no idea what you're talking about because the original meaning is lost. That's why I don't think it matters whether we use military terms for computer stuff. It doesn't have its original meaning anymore.
      - Godel_unicode 5y ago
        > I don't think naming is a big deal Good, we agree, no more tacti-cool cosplaying in IT.
bserge 5y ago
"Overdrive"
- thrower123 5y ago
  Turbo. I miss the old turbo button, even when it didn't actually do much of anything.
  - arein3 5y ago
    turbo actually slowed the cpu to 4.77 MHz (the speed of 8086/8088) because early programs's timing logic were based on 4.77 MHz clock frequency

matheusmoreira 5y ago

Linux control groups and systemd CPU quotas use values larger than 100% for denoting more than one CPU. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.resource-control.html https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.res... > The percentage specifies how much CPU time the unit shall get at maximum, relative to the total CPU time available on one CPU. Use values > 100% for allotting CPU time on more than one CPU.