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> moving to a place that already matches your preferences better than where you are now Still assuming there is such a a place. Why would you assume (again) th

> moving to a place that already matches your preferences better than where you are now Still assuming there is such a a place. Why would you assume (again) that I didn't already research and consider alternatives before plonking down a third of my net worth on a house? I live where I do because it was the best match for what I'm looking for, but the fact that it's the best available doesn't mean I can't wish it to be better for myself and others. Also, even if there were such a better place already, moving itself isn't a no-op. Moving even between ideal locations can be considered worse than staying even in one non-ideal location. Pulling kids out of a school system and away from all of their friends is particularly disruptive. "Love it or leave it" only works for one constituency - those who are fine with the status quo, who don't have or seek any connection to their communities, and don't see a need for there to be more of anything else. It doesn't even engage with people whose circumstances or beliefs are different; it just ignores their existence. I don't think that's constructive. Why are you so dead set against people solving problems instead of running away from them?

pdonis 5y ago
> Still assuming there is such a a place. Have you tried to find out? > "Just move" only works for one constituency - those who don't have or want any connection to whatever community they live in Not at all. People can change communities. The fact that a person chooses to move does not mean that had no connection to the place they are leaving, or that they won't form any connections to the place they move to. Maybe you can't imagine ever being connected to any other place than the one you live in right now, but not everyone is like you. > Pulling kids out of a school system and away from all of their friends is particularly disruptive. It could be. Or it could be an opportunity to broaden their horizons and give them a chance to make new friends, and to cease having to deal with the kids at their school that they can't stand. > I live where I do because it's the best match for what I'm looking for Your original post in this subthread didn't make it sound that way. But if that is in fact the case for you, that's fine. It might not be the case for many other people.
- notacoward 5y ago
  > Maybe you can't imagine ever being connected to any other place than the one you live in right now I've lived 20 places in my life, from New Zealand to Massachusetts. I know all about uprooting oneself to seek something better, broadening horizons, etc. Please stop making convenient personal assumptions.
  - pdonis 5y ago
    > I've lived 20 places in my life, from New Zealand to Massachusetts. Then I fail to understand why you seem unable to comprehend why people might want to move. > Please stop making convenient personal assumptions. It seems to me that you are the one who is doing that: you seem to be assuming that, since you, after moving many times, have now found a place you want to stay in, nobody else can have any reason to move.
    - notacoward 5y ago
      Are you just conflating "no reason to move" with "moving doesn't always solve a problem" for rhetorical effect? Because I find no value in that. Find another target.

pdonis 5y ago

> Still assuming there is such a a place. Have you tried to find out? > "Just move" only works for one constituency - those who don't have or want any connection to whatever community they live in Not at all. People can change communities. The fact that a person chooses to move does not mean that had no connection to the place they are leaving, or that they won't form any connections to the place they move to. Maybe you can't imagine ever being connected to any other place than the one you live in right now, but not everyone is like you. > Pulling kids out of a school system and away from all of their friends is particularly disruptive. It could be. Or it could be an opportunity to broaden their horizons and give them a chance to make new friends, and to cease having to deal with the kids at their school that they can't stand. > I live where I do because it's the best match for what I'm looking for Your original post in this subthread didn't make it sound that way. But if that is in fact the case for you, that's fine. It might not be the case for many other people.

notacoward 5y ago
> Maybe you can't imagine ever being connected to any other place than the one you live in right now I've lived 20 places in my life, from New Zealand to Massachusetts. I know all about uprooting oneself to seek something better, broadening horizons, etc. Please stop making convenient personal assumptions.
- pdonis 5y ago
  > I've lived 20 places in my life, from New Zealand to Massachusetts. Then I fail to understand why you seem unable to comprehend why people might want to move. > Please stop making convenient personal assumptions. It seems to me that you are the one who is doing that: you seem to be assuming that, since you, after moving many times, have now found a place you want to stay in, nobody else can have any reason to move.
  - notacoward 5y ago
    Are you just conflating "no reason to move" with "moving doesn't always solve a problem" for rhetorical effect? Because I find no value in that. Find another target.