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What a rhetoric device. Is your preferred solution to let people die in droves to a mass extinction ?
by pyrale 5y ago
What a rhetoric device.
Is your preferred solution to let people die in droves to a mass extinction ?
- paulcole 5y agoI don’t think it’s necessarily the commenter’s solution but it does seem to be the one the world is going all in on.
- FreeSpeech 5y agoSo what proposal do luddites put forward then? People should travel intercontinentally by ship?
- tonyedgecombe 5y agoIt's hard to take something away from people once they have already had it. Yet if we had never discovered flight then we wouldn't spend much time lamenting the lack of air travel. Instead we would get on with life within the limitations we have just like we do for other constraints.
- barney54 5y agoWhat mass extinction? From climate change? Has the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said that because I’ve never seen that as a scientific claim.
- pyrale 5y agoWe are currently going through a well-documented extinction[1]. It's not recent in human terms, but it's been accelerating recently, with industrialization. Climate change is not the only, nor the major cause in the current extinction, but it contributes. In a way, this is unfortunate: it would be easier to have only one problem. The relevant body for scientific information is not the IPCC, but the IPBES [2]. Like the IPCC, it releases reports summarizing the situation and its causes [3]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Science-Policy_Platform_on_Biodiversity_and_Ecosystem_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Science-Poli... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Assessment_Report_on_Biodiversity_and_Ecosystem_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Assessment_Report_on_Bi...
- fastball 5y agoMy preferred solution is buttloads of nuclear, carbon neutral solutions to liquid fuel (e.g. pulling CH4 out of atmosphere with Sabatier) and general carbon capture.
- pyrale 5y agoWhile producing clean energy would be great, a significant share of our travel issues is related to land use.
- fastball 5y agoOk, but... airplanes use the least land?
- pyrale 5y agoMuch like the difference in land use with or without cars is not simply roads and parkings, but also the horizontal development of cities rather than vertical, the land use involved by planes is not simply the airstrips. Among others, it is also all the land developed specifically for vacation in remote places. If you look at [1] for instance, this area would simply not be developed if planes were not a thing. [1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@21.1715988,-86.8077681,1041m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@21.1715988,-86.8077681,1041m/da...
- fastball 5y agoWhat is wrong with vacations in remote places?