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No you don't get to brush off actual armed establishment of an autonomous zone with "benign intention". That is the equivalent of mass-hostage taking and the b

No you don't get to brush off actual armed establishment of an autonomous zone with "benign intention". That is the equivalent of mass-hostage taking and the beginnings of a coup; exactly as "benign" in intention as the 6th. > You won't find me defending CHAZ, like you seem to assume I will. This is exactly what you're doing here, you saw the claim and came running. You're just having to back-peddle now that someone is calling you on what you're doing. Also, it's funny how intention is the only thing you are grabbing hold of and bringing up. Is that because of literally everything else about the CHAZ situation and the riots and the destruction of property that surrounded it are completely indefensible and infinitely worse? Is the only reason "Intention" even becomes something you care about because it's the one thing you could try and twist into X is worse than Y?

HelloMcFly 5y ago
> No you don't get to brush off actual armed establishment of an autonomous zone with "benign intention". Please read my comment again. I said "more benign" (than Jan. 6), but literally also said "not benign." I found CHAZ very troubling in both idea and practice. But it doesn't hold a candle to breaking into the Capitol to disrupt our system of governance, possibly murder congresspersons (and the VP), and install their preferred president. CHAZ was bad, but orders of magnitude less so. And since that's all you thought was worth responding to, I think that's my exit in this conversation.
- textgel 5y ago
  > And comparing Jan. 6 to CHAZ is honestly a total joke not even worth acknowledging further. > But I do need it to not be compared to situations that are not laughably benign by comparison. > I don't know you, but that comparison was whack, be it bad faith, naivety, or ignorance. In my opinion, of course, however misguided, hyperbolic, or otherwise. You said what you said ^ and no hand waving about "oooh I didnt mean it like that" will change that. > And since that's all you thought was worth responding to, That's all you've given to respond to. All you've done is hysterically scream "False equivalence" and make weak claims of "Intention", which I've already pointed out are bunk when compared alongside the obvious intention of CHAZ. > I think that's my exit in this conversation. Yes I think that's about your only option at this point.
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HelloMcFly 5y ago

> No you don't get to brush off actual armed establishment of an autonomous zone with "benign intention". Please read my comment again. I said "more benign" (than Jan. 6), but literally also said "not benign." I found CHAZ very troubling in both idea and practice. But it doesn't hold a candle to breaking into the Capitol to disrupt our system of governance, possibly murder congresspersons (and the VP), and install their preferred president. CHAZ was bad, but orders of magnitude less so. And since that's all you thought was worth responding to, I think that's my exit in this conversation.

textgel 5y ago
> And comparing Jan. 6 to CHAZ is honestly a total joke not even worth acknowledging further. > But I do need it to not be compared to situations that are not laughably benign by comparison. > I don't know you, but that comparison was whack, be it bad faith, naivety, or ignorance. In my opinion, of course, however misguided, hyperbolic, or otherwise. You said what you said ^ and no hand waving about "oooh I didnt mean it like that" will change that. > And since that's all you thought was worth responding to, That's all you've given to respond to. All you've done is hysterically scream "False equivalence" and make weak claims of "Intention", which I've already pointed out are bunk when compared alongside the obvious intention of CHAZ. > I think that's my exit in this conversation. Yes I think that's about your only option at this point.
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