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The amount of gray posts in censorship threads always cracks me up. Please go on.

enraged_camel 5y ago
This is my least favorite thing about HN, because it strongly reinforces groupthink. I'd much rather have the number of upvotes and downvotes visible, like Reddit, and leave the styling of the text unchanged.
- LinuxBender 5y ago
  If you happen to have NoScript installed, you can add something like this to the My filters ycombinator.com##.c00:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c5a:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c73:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c82:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c88:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c9c:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cae:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cbe:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cce:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cdd:style(color: #000 !important; ) Change the color to match your preference.
  - fighterpilot 5y ago
    It'd be cool to have an option in the user's HN profile/account that they can toggle if they want to hide the greying out
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Have the admins of HN ever defended their decision to grey out downvoted comments with some good arguments? Because reading a text thread where the color of the text constantly changes is rather annoying.
- kingsuper20 5y ago
  Personally, I think that voting is ridiculous, but I see the point. It's one of the strongest methodologies for making a discussion board addictive. I think an interesting feature to add would be to have peoples' user areas show how many downvotes they have spewed forth.
mnouquet 5y ago
Actually, it helps me figure out posts I should upvote.
- II2II 5y ago
  My thoughts on grey posts: these are messages that need further examination. If the author is making their point in a civil way, then we should be up-voting it. Whether we agree or disagree with their point should not matter since the aim is to maintain civil discourse rather than to create an echo chamber. If the author is taking away from civil discourse we should be down-voting grey posts. Whether we agree or disagree with their perspective should not play a role since it is far more important to create an environment where everyone is comfortable with expressing themselves. We will only be able to maintain the freedom of speech if civility is at the core of our discourse. Once civility is dropped, we run the risk of speech being used as a tool to suppress speech.
  - mnouquet 5y ago
    Civil discourse is long dead, and with an enemy knowing no boundary, it is only fair to respond with no boundary. Morality/ethics/rules of war will only get you dead. Creating a new HN account is cheap, this is my fourth or fifth one.
    - dang 5y ago
      Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it a ton lately. It's not what this site is for. As you know, we ban accounts that do it. Of course, it's cheap to create a new account, because we want HN to be open to newcomers. But why abuse that, when you could contribute to not destroying the ecosystem instead? I'm sure you wouldn't drop lit matches in a dry forest, or litter in a city park, or dump motor oil in a mountain lake. Please stop being that sort of person here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - mnouquet 5y ago

This is my least favorite thing about HN, because it strongly reinforces groupthink. I'd much rather have the number of upvotes and downvotes visible, like Reddit, and leave the styling of the text unchanged.

LinuxBender 5y ago
If you happen to have NoScript installed, you can add something like this to the My filters ycombinator.com##.c00:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c5a:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c73:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c82:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c88:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.c9c:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cae:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cbe:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cce:style(color: #000 !important; ) ycombinator.com##.cdd:style(color: #000 !important; ) Change the color to match your preference.
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  It'd be cool to have an option in the user's HN profile/account that they can toggle if they want to hide the greying out
inglor_cz 5y ago
Have the admins of HN ever defended their decision to grey out downvoted comments with some good arguments? Because reading a text thread where the color of the text constantly changes is rather annoying.
kingsuper20 5y ago
Personally, I think that voting is ridiculous, but I see the point. It's one of the strongest methodologies for making a discussion board addictive. I think an interesting feature to add would be to have peoples' user areas show how many downvotes they have spewed forth.

mnouquet 5y ago

Actually, it helps me figure out posts I should upvote.

II2II 5y ago
My thoughts on grey posts: these are messages that need further examination. If the author is making their point in a civil way, then we should be up-voting it. Whether we agree or disagree with their point should not matter since the aim is to maintain civil discourse rather than to create an echo chamber. If the author is taking away from civil discourse we should be down-voting grey posts. Whether we agree or disagree with their perspective should not play a role since it is far more important to create an environment where everyone is comfortable with expressing themselves. We will only be able to maintain the freedom of speech if civility is at the core of our discourse. Once civility is dropped, we run the risk of speech being used as a tool to suppress speech.
- mnouquet 5y ago
  Civil discourse is long dead, and with an enemy knowing no boundary, it is only fair to respond with no boundary. Morality/ethics/rules of war will only get you dead. Creating a new HN account is cheap, this is my fourth or fifth one.
  - dang 5y ago
    Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it a ton lately. It's not what this site is for. As you know, we ban accounts that do it. Of course, it's cheap to create a new account, because we want HN to be open to newcomers. But why abuse that, when you could contribute to not destroying the ecosystem instead? I'm sure you wouldn't drop lit matches in a dry forest, or litter in a city park, or dump motor oil in a mountain lake. Please stop being that sort of person here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - mnouquet 5y ago