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Not to be meta contrarian but I think everyone understands his pattern of arrogance got the best of him with that fruit based diet from a nutritionist scam. Th

Not to be meta contrarian but I think everyone understands his pattern of arrogance got the best of him with that fruit based diet from a nutritionist scam. The people that deify him mostly forget that actually running a company like him means requiring a bailout from your primary competitor, which means failure. edit: ok he wasn't there during that time period. A better example would be other areas of arrogance and not uplifting behavior.

mlyle 5y ago
> The people that deify him mostly forget that actually running a company like him means requiring a bailout from your primary competitor, which means failure. There's plenty to criticize Jobs for, but this one doesn't make sense to me. Gates bailed out Apple in August 1997. Jobs departed Apple in 1985 and returned when the NeXT acquisition in February 1997. Do you think that the reason Apple sorely needed capital was primarily down to Jobs' decisions between February and August? Or was it some critical misstep in 1983-1984 manifesting 13 years later?
pram 5y ago
He wasn't even at Apple for the entire decade preceding that bailout. People probably 'forgot' because it's not true at all!
- radicaldreamer 5y ago
  It's the exact opposite of the original comment... without Jobs and his engineering of the bailout from Gates, Apple would've definitely failed! He was fantastic as a founder and loyal to his original company when the path of least resistance would've been totally different.
- maverick-iceman 5y ago
  > He wasn't even at Apple for the entire decade preceding that bailout. People probably 'forgot' because it's not true at all! Because he ran the company into the ground before and the board fired him Also people are right when they claim that Jobs rise to fame wouldn't have happened without the DOJ going after Microsoft because the powers that be were disturbed by Gates 160B wealth back in 1999. If the DOJ didn't go after Microsoft we now wouldn't have a 1400$ phone which you can't recharge while listening to music...Thank you Bill Clinton's DOJ! United States of Microsoft would have been a really cool place to live considering they are the only company which engineered wealth redistribution as a service. By not pursuing individual user piracy they found a way to have Fortune 500 companies subsidize the kids and the geeks of this world who know where to find cracked Windows and Office. EDIT: I will delete this comment when it reaches -5 score. Don't want to be shadowbanned, but the cult hivemind in here around people like Musk and Jobs is insufferable

mlyle 5y ago

> The people that deify him mostly forget that actually running a company like him means requiring a bailout from your primary competitor, which means failure. There's plenty to criticize Jobs for, but this one doesn't make sense to me. Gates bailed out Apple in August 1997. Jobs departed Apple in 1985 and returned when the NeXT acquisition in February 1997. Do you think that the reason Apple sorely needed capital was primarily down to Jobs' decisions between February and August? Or was it some critical misstep in 1983-1984 manifesting 13 years later?

pram 5y ago

He wasn't even at Apple for the entire decade preceding that bailout. People probably 'forgot' because it's not true at all!

radicaldreamer 5y ago
It's the exact opposite of the original comment... without Jobs and his engineering of the bailout from Gates, Apple would've definitely failed! He was fantastic as a founder and loyal to his original company when the path of least resistance would've been totally different.
maverick-iceman 5y ago
> He wasn't even at Apple for the entire decade preceding that bailout. People probably 'forgot' because it's not true at all! Because he ran the company into the ground before and the board fired him Also people are right when they claim that Jobs rise to fame wouldn't have happened without the DOJ going after Microsoft because the powers that be were disturbed by Gates 160B wealth back in 1999. If the DOJ didn't go after Microsoft we now wouldn't have a 1400$ phone which you can't recharge while listening to music...Thank you Bill Clinton's DOJ! United States of Microsoft would have been a really cool place to live considering they are the only company which engineered wealth redistribution as a service. By not pursuing individual user piracy they found a way to have Fortune 500 companies subsidize the kids and the geeks of this world who know where to find cracked Windows and Office. EDIT: I will delete this comment when it reaches -5 score. Don't want to be shadowbanned, but the cult hivemind in here around people like Musk and Jobs is insufferable