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SF has sadly experienced a pretty meteoric rise in crime but one of the problems is the DA's office is underreporting so the actual number is much higher. A bi

SF has sadly experienced a pretty meteoric rise in crime but one of the problems is the DA's office is underreporting so the actual number is much higher. A big part of the rise is California's Prop47, it passed and basically made any crime that cost less than $950 impossible to prosecute. Then SF's DA has also refused to prosecute a variety of other crimes that were previously prosecuted leading to SF becoming a hotspot. The joke is that "crime is legal in SF", and sadly thats basically true. I'm an SF native and I've never seen it this bad, its really awful.

Graziano_M 5y ago
Chesa really needs to be recalled.
cronix 5y ago
"Proposition 47: The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act" https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm > First, it reclassified certain theft and drug possession offenses from felonies to misdemeanors. Second, it authorizes defendants currently serving sentences for felony offenses that would have qualified as misdemeanors under the proposition to petition courts for resentencing under the new misdemeanor provisions. Third, it authorizes defendants who have completed their sentences for felony convictions that would have qualified as misdemeanors under the proposition to apply to reclassify those convictions to misdemeanors. What does any of that have to do with keeping schools or neighborhoods safe? It seems what it does is keep criminals safe. Keyword searching that bill for "school" or "neighborhood" yields 0 results, except the title of the bill.
- tzs 5y ago
  > What does any of that have to do with keeping schools or neighborhoods safe? The FAQ linked to on the page you linked to states: > The stated purpose of the proposition is to “ensure that prison spending is focused on violent and serious offenses, to maximize alternatives for non-serious, nonviolent crime, and to invest the savings generated from [the proposition] into prevention and support programs in K-12 schools, victim services, and mental health and drug treatment” and to ensure “that sentences for people convicted of dangerous crimes like rape, murder, and child molestation are not changed.” The proposition states that it “shall be liberally construed to effectuate its purposes.” I have no idea if it has done any of those things. I'd expect it would be pretty hard to determine if it has actually led to any savings, let alone do so with enough specificity to invest them in school programs etc.
- bifrost 5y ago
  Correct, it has since made schools and neighborhoods less safe. Making the lives of criminals easier isn't the answer to solving society's problems with crime.
xyst 5y ago
I have seen the videos of groups (or individuals) just walking out of stores with bags of unpaid merchandise. That’s just insane to me. I think out of all the videos I have seen, police arrested or caught 1 individual. Whether or not that person was taken to the station is unknown as the video just stops there. I think SF is an example of what not to do when it comes to decriminalizing certain aspects. Stealing at all levels should be prosecuted. This discourages others from doing the same. People from all sides should agree with this.

Graziano_M 5y ago

Chesa really needs to be recalled.

cronix 5y ago

"Proposition 47: The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act" https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm https://www.courts.ca.gov/prop47.htm > First, it reclassified certain theft and drug possession offenses from felonies to misdemeanors. Second, it authorizes defendants currently serving sentences for felony offenses that would have qualified as misdemeanors under the proposition to petition courts for resentencing under the new misdemeanor provisions. Third, it authorizes defendants who have completed their sentences for felony convictions that would have qualified as misdemeanors under the proposition to apply to reclassify those convictions to misdemeanors. What does any of that have to do with keeping schools or neighborhoods safe? It seems what it does is keep criminals safe. Keyword searching that bill for "school" or "neighborhood" yields 0 results, except the title of the bill.

tzs 5y ago
> What does any of that have to do with keeping schools or neighborhoods safe? The FAQ linked to on the page you linked to states: > The stated purpose of the proposition is to “ensure that prison spending is focused on violent and serious offenses, to maximize alternatives for non-serious, nonviolent crime, and to invest the savings generated from [the proposition] into prevention and support programs in K-12 schools, victim services, and mental health and drug treatment” and to ensure “that sentences for people convicted of dangerous crimes like rape, murder, and child molestation are not changed.” The proposition states that it “shall be liberally construed to effectuate its purposes.” I have no idea if it has done any of those things. I'd expect it would be pretty hard to determine if it has actually led to any savings, let alone do so with enough specificity to invest them in school programs etc.
bifrost 5y ago
Correct, it has since made schools and neighborhoods less safe. Making the lives of criminals easier isn't the answer to solving society's problems with crime.

xyst 5y ago

I have seen the videos of groups (or individuals) just walking out of stores with bags of unpaid merchandise. That’s just insane to me. I think out of all the videos I have seen, police arrested or caught 1 individual. Whether or not that person was taken to the station is unknown as the video just stops there. I think SF is an example of what not to do when it comes to decriminalizing certain aspects. Stealing at all levels should be prosecuted. This discourages others from doing the same. People from all sides should agree with this.