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"They are up only 75% compared to 2019." Still, a 75% increase from 2019 is insane.... and SF was already the car break in capital of the us (when I lived the

"They are up only 75% compared to 2019." Still, a 75% increase from 2019 is insane.... and SF was already the car break in capital of the us (when I lived there my neighbor's car got broken in a garage). And it is common to see shattered glass everywhere around SOMA and downtown. I live in NYC, and just feel much more safer here. Yet, NYC is about to elect a former cop, to fight crime even more. The mess in SF started with Gascon, and it doubled down with Boudin. You voted for it SF, own it. You vote stupid, you get stupid.

netizen-936824 5y ago
You're completely ignoring the main point if OP, which is that it is NOT up. The presented data is an outlier and likely not statistically significant.
- adam_arthur 5y ago
  Up 75% from 2019 in the central district is not a notable increase to you? Pretty sure SF was near the top of the list for property crime in 2019 already too. I lived in SOMA for 4 years and saw break-ins every single night with no police response. Not an exaggeration when I say every night. OP seems to be handwaving away this massive increase, unless he presents some data to show that May is indeed an outlier vs other months such as June
p49k 5y ago
SF was already the car break in capital of the us SF doesn’t even break the top 10 in per-capita thefts.
- ardit33 5y ago
  I said car break ins/vandalized smash and grab style, not overall car thefts (Oakland has higher stats on that one). And given that people are so used to it, the stats are probably misleading (my neighbor didn't even both to file a report) This started with 'progressive' Gascon (who is in LA right now) and it is accelerating with Boudin to stupid high levels. Feels like you are in war torn country and not a first world city. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/san-francisco-crime-policy/479880/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/san-fra...
Grazester 5y ago
I always feel skeptical to leave anything of value for any period of time in my car in NYC. However nothing has ever happened. I did have a relative that had his car broken into years ago and have his stock car stereo taken. I had to ask him if that was still a thing, he too was a bit surprised since it was an older model car. His car was parked in an industrial area that made it an easy target though. When I move here long ago I was told don't leave any visible change in the car because a "crack head" would break the car for it.
- ardit33 5y ago
  I live in Manhattan and it is extremely rare to see broken car windows/shattered glass in the streets. In SF, it is a common sight, even in nicer seemingly quiet areas (eg. inner Richmond). It used to be that few junkies would do it around SOMA, or only around tourist heavy areas, but now it is organized by smash and grab gangs/groups, that cruise around even quiet neighborhoods to look for easy opportunities. Some, more sophisticated ones, even use bluetooth seeking/scanning devices to detect when there is a laptop hidden in a car nearby.

netizen-936824 5y ago

You're completely ignoring the main point if OP, which is that it is NOT up. The presented data is an outlier and likely not statistically significant.

adam_arthur 5y ago
Up 75% from 2019 in the central district is not a notable increase to you? Pretty sure SF was near the top of the list for property crime in 2019 already too. I lived in SOMA for 4 years and saw break-ins every single night with no police response. Not an exaggeration when I say every night. OP seems to be handwaving away this massive increase, unless he presents some data to show that May is indeed an outlier vs other months such as June

p49k 5y ago

SF was already the car break in capital of the us SF doesn’t even break the top 10 in per-capita thefts.

ardit33 5y ago
I said car break ins/vandalized smash and grab style, not overall car thefts (Oakland has higher stats on that one). And given that people are so used to it, the stats are probably misleading (my neighbor didn't even both to file a report) This started with 'progressive' Gascon (who is in LA right now) and it is accelerating with Boudin to stupid high levels. Feels like you are in war torn country and not a first world city. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/san-francisco-crime-policy/479880/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/san-fra...

Grazester 5y ago

I always feel skeptical to leave anything of value for any period of time in my car in NYC. However nothing has ever happened. I did have a relative that had his car broken into years ago and have his stock car stereo taken. I had to ask him if that was still a thing, he too was a bit surprised since it was an older model car. His car was parked in an industrial area that made it an easy target though. When I move here long ago I was told don't leave any visible change in the car because a "crack head" would break the car for it.

ardit33 5y ago
I live in Manhattan and it is extremely rare to see broken car windows/shattered glass in the streets. In SF, it is a common sight, even in nicer seemingly quiet areas (eg. inner Richmond). It used to be that few junkies would do it around SOMA, or only around tourist heavy areas, but now it is organized by smash and grab gangs/groups, that cruise around even quiet neighborhoods to look for easy opportunities. Some, more sophisticated ones, even use bluetooth seeking/scanning devices to detect when there is a laptop hidden in a car nearby.