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Well my neighbor works in construction and would park several of his giant dump trucks in the street parking and the crew would gather outside every morning mak

by yao420 5y ago

Well my neighbor works in construction and would park several of his giant dump trucks in the street parking and the crew would gather outside every morning making a ruckus while leaving for the day. It was terrible and I was glad the code department put a stop to that and made every person in that neighborhood happy. This reasoning is exactly why I stopped being a libertarian, the free market has no recourse mechanisms for actors making peoples lives worse.

nateabele 5y ago
Did you and your neighbors every try talking to the guy? Government policy and the marketplace aren't the exclusive ways of managing relationships between people.
- yao420 5y ago
  Of course we did. He told us to “suck an egg”. Will probably always remember that phrase now.
zozbot234 5y ago
> This reasoning is exactly why I stopped being a libertarian, the free market has no recourse mechanisms for actors making peoples lives worse. Nuisance law is a recourse mechanism in the case you point out, and is included in any reasonable notion of "free market". (In the more radical notions of libertarianism, you and the other guy would simply submit the dispute to a mutually-trusted outside arbitrator, with a voluntary agreement to abide by the arbitrator's ruling.)
ericmay 5y ago
I wouldn’t confuse this incident and the solution with libertarianism or any other government system because it would take a large systematic and philosophical analysis to really arrive at an agreed-upon “what is causing this” consensus. Annnnd from the perspective of the person you’re complaining about this is an incentive for libertarianism, you are making their life worse by enacting arbitrary rules that make you happy and enforcing those rules with violence. And it could be that some other inane government rule made it so that they had to park trucks where they did in the first place.

by yao420 5y ago

nateabele 5y ago

Did you and your neighbors every try talking to the guy? Government policy and the marketplace aren't the exclusive ways of managing relationships between people.

yao420 5y ago
Of course we did. He told us to “suck an egg”. Will probably always remember that phrase now.

zozbot234 5y ago

> This reasoning is exactly why I stopped being a libertarian, the free market has no recourse mechanisms for actors making peoples lives worse. Nuisance law is a recourse mechanism in the case you point out, and is included in any reasonable notion of "free market". (In the more radical notions of libertarianism, you and the other guy would simply submit the dispute to a mutually-trusted outside arbitrator, with a voluntary agreement to abide by the arbitrator's ruling.)

ericmay 5y ago

I wouldn’t confuse this incident and the solution with libertarianism or any other government system because it would take a large systematic and philosophical analysis to really arrive at an agreed-upon “what is causing this” consensus. Annnnd from the perspective of the person you’re complaining about this is an incentive for libertarianism, you are making their life worse by enacting arbitrary rules that make you happy and enforcing those rules with violence. And it could be that some other inane government rule made it so that they had to park trucks where they did in the first place.