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nothing can beat native gaming it's such a shame that linux gaming = using windows emulator for valve.. proton should be used as a way to SUPPLEMENT, they nee

nothing can beat native gaming it's such a shame that linux gaming = using windows emulator for valve.. proton should be used as a way to SUPPLEMENT, they need to push native builds harder, c'mon valve create more libraries that are crossplatform by design, create build system that makes it easier to cross compile games encourage AAA companies to support crossplatform builds it's sad to see linux stagnating despite valve being so vocal about it

xtracto 5y ago
I agree with your main point. But want to clarify that Proton/Valve is NOT an emulator. As such the games people play on Linux run at the same speed/performance than in Windows. Proton is based in Wine I Not An Emulator. Which basically is a set of "library that is cross platform by design" . Its doesn't add the additional emulation layer . The problem currently is not the technology: AFAIK Unreal,Unity and other libraries already offer builds for different architectures. The problem is operational: Having to maintain/support/operate an additional architecture.
ubercow13 5y ago
IME Proton works better than most native ports in terms of likelihood of the game even launching, portability across distributions, not needing to install libraries on the underlying system, stuff like controller support, and even performance (often significantly).
mariusor 5y ago
> encourage AAA companies to support crossplatform builds I think the main problem that game developers quote for not wanting to release their games on linux is that the sales they get on the platform do not counter balance the increased number of support requests that come from it. The one thing Valve could do to mitigate this issue, would be to allow devs to not offers support on specific platforms. I think that the linux community at large is able to work around issues even without dev support. Another issue that I've seen over the years, and one that even seasoned developers fall into, is that they do not seem to be aware of the Steam Linux Runtime as a single platform to support linux, but start getting discouraged by how many distributions there are, how many versions of glibc to support and all that mess.
- Shadonototro 5y ago
  Stadia is a thing now, many AAA companies already support native linux builds [1], lot of AAA and popular titles including indie ones Maybe valve should get into cloud gaming and push linux as backend OS Maybe they should lower the 30% cut they get if linux is supported [1] https://stadia.google.com/store https://stadia.google.com/store

xtracto 5y ago

I agree with your main point. But want to clarify that Proton/Valve is NOT an emulator. As such the games people play on Linux run at the same speed/performance than in Windows. Proton is based in Wine I Not An Emulator. Which basically is a set of "library that is cross platform by design" . Its doesn't add the additional emulation layer . The problem currently is not the technology: AFAIK Unreal,Unity and other libraries already offer builds for different architectures. The problem is operational: Having to maintain/support/operate an additional architecture.

ubercow13 5y ago

IME Proton works better than most native ports in terms of likelihood of the game even launching, portability across distributions, not needing to install libraries on the underlying system, stuff like controller support, and even performance (often significantly).

mariusor 5y ago

> encourage AAA companies to support crossplatform builds I think the main problem that game developers quote for not wanting to release their games on linux is that the sales they get on the platform do not counter balance the increased number of support requests that come from it. The one thing Valve could do to mitigate this issue, would be to allow devs to not offers support on specific platforms. I think that the linux community at large is able to work around issues even without dev support. Another issue that I've seen over the years, and one that even seasoned developers fall into, is that they do not seem to be aware of the Steam Linux Runtime as a single platform to support linux, but start getting discouraged by how many distributions there are, how many versions of glibc to support and all that mess.

Shadonototro 5y ago
Stadia is a thing now, many AAA companies already support native linux builds [1], lot of AAA and popular titles including indie ones Maybe valve should get into cloud gaming and push linux as backend OS Maybe they should lower the 30% cut they get if linux is supported [1] https://stadia.google.com/store https://stadia.google.com/store