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You're already lying about the rioters being armed with guns in point 1. If you're willing to lie here then what value is there in any of the rest of your clai

You're already lying about the rioters being armed with guns in point 1. If you're willing to lie here then what value is there in any of the rest of your claims?

HelloMcFly 5y ago
The Oath Keepers brought arms to DC for this rally they had a major hand in planning. That the FBI only seized one handgun from the riot doesn't by any means indicate or imply there were not other armed rioters, especially given evidence from chat logs and social media that these militia groups did travel with their weapons. And many of the rioters had non-firearm weapons as well (e.g., tasers, bats, crowbars, stunguns, knives, chemical sprays, etc.) The reality is we'll never know the extent of how armed (guns or otherwise) the rioters were, because almost everyone was allowed to leave unimpeded.
- textgel 5y ago
  You've already attempted to misslead on this; cite your sources. And "we'll never know" isn't good enough. Again especially from someone caught lying.
  - HelloMcFly 5y ago
    I'll Google for you, but that's it for me in this conversation. * Decent but not exhaustive summary of the myth you're parroting: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-ar... * Another one from NPR that gets into more specifics: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters... * Admission of rioter that he had firearms, agrees to cooperate further: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-capitol-riot-oath-keeper-mark-grods-guilty-plea-cooperation/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-capitol-riot-oath-kee... * Discusses Oath Keepers' chats and them clearly communicating intent, including their "quick reaction force" with an "arsenal" ready if needed: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/january-6-conspiracy-congress-insurrection-oath-keepers-trump-roger-stone/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/january-6-consp... * Description weapons, focusing on two individuals in particular: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dan... * Database from NPR on those charged (CTRL+F "weapon"): https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-t... Also watch basically any video reconstruction to see any number of people treating any number of objects like clubs. But I'm not going to rewatch the videos to find the timestamps. And now that I've jumped through your hope, I'll reinforce a key point: the vast, vast majority of rioters (both that entered and just lingered outside the capitol) were not searched.
    - textgel 5y ago
      From you > They had guns, nooses, there were chat logs, etc. This is not conjecture. Stop trying to wiggle out of this. You said armed with guns. Don't try and move this over suddenly to "Clubs" because your bs has been called.
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You're already lying about the rioters being armed with guns in point 1. If you're willing to lie here then what value is there in any of the rest of your claims?

HelloMcFly 5y ago

The Oath Keepers brought arms to DC for this rally they had a major hand in planning. That the FBI only seized one handgun from the riot doesn't by any means indicate or imply there were not other armed rioters, especially given evidence from chat logs and social media that these militia groups did travel with their weapons. And many of the rioters had non-firearm weapons as well (e.g., tasers, bats, crowbars, stunguns, knives, chemical sprays, etc.) The reality is we'll never know the extent of how armed (guns or otherwise) the rioters were, because almost everyone was allowed to leave unimpeded.

textgel 5y ago
You've already attempted to misslead on this; cite your sources. And "we'll never know" isn't good enough. Again especially from someone caught lying.
- HelloMcFly 5y ago
  I'll Google for you, but that's it for me in this conversation. * Decent but not exhaustive summary of the myth you're parroting: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-ar... * Another one from NPR that gets into more specifics: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters... * Admission of rioter that he had firearms, agrees to cooperate further: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-capitol-riot-oath-keeper-mark-grods-guilty-plea-cooperation/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-capitol-riot-oath-kee... * Discusses Oath Keepers' chats and them clearly communicating intent, including their "quick reaction force" with an "arsenal" ready if needed: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/january-6-conspiracy-congress-insurrection-oath-keepers-trump-roger-stone/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/january-6-consp... * Description weapons, focusing on two individuals in particular: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dan... * Database from NPR on those charged (CTRL+F "weapon"): https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-t... Also watch basically any video reconstruction to see any number of people treating any number of objects like clubs. But I'm not going to rewatch the videos to find the timestamps. And now that I've jumped through your hope, I'll reinforce a key point: the vast, vast majority of rioters (both that entered and just lingered outside the capitol) were not searched.
  - textgel 5y ago
    From you > They had guns, nooses, there were chat logs, etc. This is not conjecture. Stop trying to wiggle out of this. You said armed with guns. Don't try and move this over suddenly to "Clubs" because your bs has been called.
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