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It's not bonkers. We have 20-30 years of data on cyber attacks and Cybersecurity is not that important - https://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=3333611 https:

by toe55 5y ago

It's not bonkers. We have 20-30 years of data on cyber attacks and Cybersecurity is not that important - https://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=3333611 https://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=3333611 Larger the dumps get the harder they are to exploit or do serious damage. I can hand you all my orgs data and 200 people who work with it everyday and it will still take you years to figure out what anything means.

kaba0 5y ago
Until it hits something important.. also, data breaches are just one form of cyber attacks.
Cullinet 5y ago
We have operating systems for which remarkably few known exploits have ever been found. VMS now "open" and recently running in a VM on Xeons. I have always suspected that the silence that resounded suddenly about security prowess of VMS coincided with the release of extensive POSIX compatibility layers and the vaunted ports of years old open source nix wares as a excuse to play buzzword bingo at that time. But anyone writing a native VMS application I'd firmly embraced by a deep architecture designed to provide accounts for the time when DEC silicon and their own leading fab was creating a explosion in processing power and the number of users capable of being supported by a OS that has still incredibly well integrated system programming tool chain languages including Digital BASIC that can do about anything BLISS can low level. This virtually (sorry) made it a overnight imperative to get the security right and tight. Alpha had hardware security rings almost certainly to give VMS the chance to serve the maximum number of users and steal account wins.
rightbyte 5y ago
> I can hand you all my orgs data and 200 people who work with it everyday and it will still take you years to figure out what anything means. Ye what are you supposed to do with the information. I worked at a place that is paranoid for data leaks of non personal data, like source code. Even if their direct competitor got the sources they would have almost no use for it since it is an undocumented mess. The source without the dev. departments is useless. The same applies for business strategy if it leaks. Which competitor is nimble enought to change anything based on that data.

by toe55 5y ago

kaba0 5y ago

Until it hits something important.. also, data breaches are just one form of cyber attacks.

Cullinet 5y ago

We have operating systems for which remarkably few known exploits have ever been found. VMS now "open" and recently running in a VM on Xeons. I have always suspected that the silence that resounded suddenly about security prowess of VMS coincided with the release of extensive POSIX compatibility layers and the vaunted ports of years old open source nix wares as a excuse to play buzzword bingo at that time. But anyone writing a native VMS application I'd firmly embraced by a deep architecture designed to provide accounts for the time when DEC silicon and their own leading fab was creating a explosion in processing power and the number of users capable of being supported by a OS that has still incredibly well integrated system programming tool chain languages including Digital BASIC that can do about anything BLISS can low level. This virtually (sorry) made it a overnight imperative to get the security right and tight. Alpha had hardware security rings almost certainly to give VMS the chance to serve the maximum number of users and steal account wins.

rightbyte 5y ago

> I can hand you all my orgs data and 200 people who work with it everyday and it will still take you years to figure out what anything means. Ye what are you supposed to do with the information. I worked at a place that is paranoid for data leaks of non personal data, like source code. Even if their direct competitor got the sources they would have almost no use for it since it is an undocumented mess. The source without the dev. departments is useless. The same applies for business strategy if it leaks. Which competitor is nimble enought to change anything based on that data.