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As someone who uses private trackers, bear with me for a moment: On private trackers, your download and upload is tracked. You are required to maintain a certa
by dannyw 5y ago
As someone who uses private trackers, bear with me for a moment:
On private trackers, your download and upload is tracked. You are required to maintain a certain ratio.
Most tracker sites allow users to "donate" money to get extra ratio.
Most tracker sites allow users to request new files and pay a bounty, in uploads (i.e. ratio).
In effect, it is already a currency.
Trackers get seized from time to time, and if the entire state of a tracker is stored in a decentralised manner, then seizure is no longer a risk.
The dataset stored by a tracker, in the age of magnet links, is very small, and can be replicated amongst all nodes.
So, as someone who usually rolls my eyes at people saying "blockchain", this is actually a perfect use for blockchain technology.
- klipt 5y agoBut wouldn't a public Blockchain make the private tracker not private anymore?
- colordrops 5y agoPrivate as in not visible, or private as in controlled by a single entity? If the former, just encrypt the data. If the latter, then use a smart contract where only certain key holders can update the tracker data.
- toomuchtodo 5y agoMutable torrents can be used for distributing a tracker’s metadata corpus using BitTorrent: http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12257065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12257065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17306106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17306106 https://static.usenix.org/events/woot10/tech/full_papers/Wolchok.pdf https://static.usenix.org/events/woot10/tech/full_papers/Wol...
- dannyw 5y agoThis is cool, but it doesn't address the user currency tracking that all private trackers have (so torrents reliably get seeded). The problem of how to solve how much currency each pseudonym has, and allows transactions between them, with no central intermediary or point of failure, is solved by a cryptocurrency.
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- zdkl 5y agoWhat about the economics of this "proof of seeding" scheme?
- gbrown_ 5y agoThis brought back fond memories of spending much of my teens on what.cd, good times.
- yunohn 5y ago> seizure is no longer a risk Rather you mean, the ledger will be perfect evidence against all the users. Not sure why you need durability for “illegal” activity data?
- markzzerella 5y agoPrivacy friendly ledgers are old hat at this point, any hypothetical system for torrents would no doubt use one.
- prepend 5y agoProof of seed hasn’t been named yet. It’s perfect except doesn’t require blockchain. It works well as just a simple semi-distributed database with sources of truth for who gets credit. The trackers I’ve used are all different and a ratio on one site might be good to “vouch” for me, but the numbers are meaningless across sites and I don’t think one site would prosper mixing their ratio calculations with another. I like your idea though and think that tracker ratios are a good example of something that meets the need that lots of coins are trying to accomplish.