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Yeah, I'm guessing they're going for steady income over risking a serious retaliation. If the hack is serious enough, there will be consequences.

arthurcolle 5y ago
FWIW though (and I don't have easily available "sources") there was this immediate retaliation where Biden was like "we will completely prosecute these offenders" and within days DarkSide PR department said "Hey sorry we didn't mean to disrupt core services, we just want money" (sic) So it's a spectrum
- covidthrow 5y ago
  That's not even close to what happened. The administration left it alone for days saying they'll let private business sort it out. (Default investigation notwithstanding.) When a bunch of news media started reporting the group was Russian and then insinuate it was a state sponsored attack, DarkSide said something along the lines of, "We didn't realize this would start geopolitical conflict. We will be careful to vet clients more carefully in the future."
  - astrange 5y ago
    Did they leave it alone for days? The FBI seized the ransom (claiming it was left in a Coinbase account) so clearly someone was doing something.
    - Wolfenstein98k 5y ago
      "Left alone" as in publicly and geopolitically. The FBI investigated the crime as they always do. It was treated as a standard international monetary theft.
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    They also accepted a ransom substantially below their typical going rate. The Darkside people were probably shitting their pants, this is not what they intended at all.
  - arthurcolle 5y ago
    I mean it's reasonably close - but FWIW thanks for the correction, it's been a wild year
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codeisawesome 5y ago
Sounds so spooky, do say more! Do you mean Jason Bourne / John Wick shows up at the hackers’ nest?
- draebek 5y ago
  Or Raytheon, yeah, I imagine so.
- rebuilder 5y ago
  Well, if the attacker manages to kill a few thousand people, there's precedent for the USA going to war over it. It would depend on the host nation of course, if it was e.g. China, Russia or some state in their sphere of influence, it'd be different than if the hackers were holed out in, say, Afghanistan.

arthurcolle 5y ago

FWIW though (and I don't have easily available "sources") there was this immediate retaliation where Biden was like "we will completely prosecute these offenders" and within days DarkSide PR department said "Hey sorry we didn't mean to disrupt core services, we just want money" (sic) So it's a spectrum

covidthrow 5y ago
That's not even close to what happened. The administration left it alone for days saying they'll let private business sort it out. (Default investigation notwithstanding.) When a bunch of news media started reporting the group was Russian and then insinuate it was a state sponsored attack, DarkSide said something along the lines of, "We didn't realize this would start geopolitical conflict. We will be careful to vet clients more carefully in the future."
- astrange 5y ago
  Did they leave it alone for days? The FBI seized the ransom (claiming it was left in a Coinbase account) so clearly someone was doing something.
  - Wolfenstein98k 5y ago
    "Left alone" as in publicly and geopolitically. The FBI investigated the crime as they always do. It was treated as a standard international monetary theft.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  They also accepted a ransom substantially below their typical going rate. The Darkside people were probably shitting their pants, this is not what they intended at all.
- arthurcolle 5y ago
  I mean it's reasonably close - but FWIW thanks for the correction, it's been a wild year

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codeisawesome 5y ago

Sounds so spooky, do say more! Do you mean Jason Bourne / John Wick shows up at the hackers’ nest?

draebek 5y ago
Or Raytheon, yeah, I imagine so.
rebuilder 5y ago
Well, if the attacker manages to kill a few thousand people, there's precedent for the USA going to war over it. It would depend on the host nation of course, if it was e.g. China, Russia or some state in their sphere of influence, it'd be different than if the hackers were holed out in, say, Afghanistan.