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You seem to think I have some political motive, I don't. I just saw a comment that from my perspective and historical education seemed to equate two things that

You seem to think I have some political motive, I don't. I just saw a comment that from my perspective and historical education seemed to equate two things that I regard as different and said that it might be helpful to not conflate those. It seems like you did not intend to conflate them and it is a difference in what you and I read into the term "actual concentration camp". From my perspective this conversation is as if someone said "working for XCompany is actual slavery" and I said "Perhaps don't use 'actual slavery' as a term for something that isn't that?"

runarberg 5y ago
Can’t speak for parent, but when I describe the immigration jails as “concentration camps” I do have a political motive. There was a political motive in calling them “immigration facilities” in the first place. I simply want to call them for what I believe they are. When describing the nazi camps I say “death camps”, as to not conflate the infinitely worse horror of the nazi camps. There is usually a political motive behind what controversial things are called. There was an active push from the oil lobby swap out the terms for the climate disaster from “global warming” to the more innocent sounding “climate change”. Then recently some media companies made the political decision to start using the term “climate disaster” or “climate crisis”. > working for XCompany is actual slavery I don’t think this is equivalent (even though it sounds like it to your ears). The ICE facilities can accurately be described as concentration camps. The victims are kept against their will—i.e. imprisoned—in camps in dedicated camps. This is an accurate term. Slavery only applies when you are forced to work for little or no salary. I.e. I often use the word actual slavery when referring to prison labor. This is a political decision on my part. And you are free to criticize this choice of word. And you would be right to say it diminishes the term when compared to the horrible cattle slavery in the Americas until the 19th century. But it is still an accurate term.
pydry 5y ago
>You seem to think I have some political motive I'm not really sure what your motive for trying to police my language was. All I know is that the reasons you have given me all seem rather unlikely.

runarberg 5y ago

Can’t speak for parent, but when I describe the immigration jails as “concentration camps” I do have a political motive. There was a political motive in calling them “immigration facilities” in the first place. I simply want to call them for what I believe they are. When describing the nazi camps I say “death camps”, as to not conflate the infinitely worse horror of the nazi camps. There is usually a political motive behind what controversial things are called. There was an active push from the oil lobby swap out the terms for the climate disaster from “global warming” to the more innocent sounding “climate change”. Then recently some media companies made the political decision to start using the term “climate disaster” or “climate crisis”. > working for XCompany is actual slavery I don’t think this is equivalent (even though it sounds like it to your ears). The ICE facilities can accurately be described as concentration camps. The victims are kept against their will—i.e. imprisoned—in camps in dedicated camps. This is an accurate term. Slavery only applies when you are forced to work for little or no salary. I.e. I often use the word actual slavery when referring to prison labor. This is a political decision on my part. And you are free to criticize this choice of word. And you would be right to say it diminishes the term when compared to the horrible cattle slavery in the Americas until the 19th century. But it is still an accurate term.

pydry 5y ago

>You seem to think I have some political motive I'm not really sure what your motive for trying to police my language was. All I know is that the reasons you have given me all seem rather unlikely.