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I made something like this a while ago (CopScore), not only were there serious issues with it but it was also very ineffective. This can ONLY be done by the go

I made something like this a while ago (CopScore), not only were there serious issues with it but it was also very ineffective. This can ONLY be done by the gov in an official capacity. Link: https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/crowdsource-police-reviews-transparency https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/crowdsource-police-reviews-...

cwkoss 5y ago
> This can ONLY be done by the gov in an official capacity. What should citizens do when the government and official capacities are completely failing to hold police accountable? In Seattle our Office of Police Accountability is a blind rubber stamping agency that our OIG recently reprimanded for their abysmal failures in investigating an incident with a lot of public intention. https://southseattleemerald.com/2021/06/30/oig-memo-reveals-serious-deficiencies-in-opa-protest-investigation-that-cannot-be-remedied/ https://southseattleemerald.com/2021/06/30/oig-memo-reveals-...
- gogopuppygogo 5y ago
  Run for office. You live in a democracy.
- VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
  Where does this learned helplessness come from? You can run for city council in Seattle. Or fund the candidates that you like. This is what citizens can do.
  - cwkoss 5y ago
    I think expecting citizens to pay if they want their government to be accountable may be at the root of this problem... (For the record, I do fund the 3 city council members who are toughest on police accountability. And our city council is moving in the right direction on police accountability - the mayor is the biggest obstacle)
    - danielheath 5y ago
      One way or another, someone has to pay. Living under a good government isn’t some naturally free good we deserve to be given; we collectively create it, and if you aren’t contributing to that, then like most people, you are freeloading on someone else’s work to make it happen. “I vote” is better than nothing, but less than the minimum average contribution required to make it work.
      - bradlys 5y ago
        So - like billionaires are just really good citizens then who aren't freeloading at all when they lobby to have their taxes sent to zero? k.
        danielheath 5y ago
        Weird takeaway from “do your share of the work”.
        netizen-936824 5y ago
        The point is, that their 'part of the work' appears to be minimizing any real work or input from them rather than trying for progress.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > What should citizens do when the government and official capacities are completely failing to hold police accountable? Replace their governments. Ideally, at the ballot box.
  - cwkoss 5y ago
    https://twitter.com/commieactivity/status/1411096839693209600 https://twitter.com/commieactivity/status/141109683969320960...
nilstycho 5y ago
What were the serious issues you observed?
- arionhardison 5y ago
  1: Threats (against me) 2: Threats (against cops) 3: False claims 4: False sense of authority (people reporting to me) It was years ago, i've forgotten lots of the issues.

cwkoss 5y ago

> This can ONLY be done by the gov in an official capacity. What should citizens do when the government and official capacities are completely failing to hold police accountable? In Seattle our Office of Police Accountability is a blind rubber stamping agency that our OIG recently reprimanded for their abysmal failures in investigating an incident with a lot of public intention. https://southseattleemerald.com/2021/06/30/oig-memo-reveals-serious-deficiencies-in-opa-protest-investigation-that-cannot-be-remedied/ https://southseattleemerald.com/2021/06/30/oig-memo-reveals-...

gogopuppygogo 5y ago
Run for office. You live in a democracy.
VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
Where does this learned helplessness come from? You can run for city council in Seattle. Or fund the candidates that you like. This is what citizens can do.
- cwkoss 5y ago
  I think expecting citizens to pay if they want their government to be accountable may be at the root of this problem... (For the record, I do fund the 3 city council members who are toughest on police accountability. And our city council is moving in the right direction on police accountability - the mayor is the biggest obstacle)
  - danielheath 5y ago
    One way or another, someone has to pay. Living under a good government isn’t some naturally free good we deserve to be given; we collectively create it, and if you aren’t contributing to that, then like most people, you are freeloading on someone else’s work to make it happen. “I vote” is better than nothing, but less than the minimum average contribution required to make it work.
    - bradlys 5y ago
      So - like billionaires are just really good citizens then who aren't freeloading at all when they lobby to have their taxes sent to zero? k.
      - danielheath 5y ago
        Weird takeaway from “do your share of the work”.
        netizen-936824 5y ago
        The point is, that their 'part of the work' appears to be minimizing any real work or input from them rather than trying for progress.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> What should citizens do when the government and official capacities are completely failing to hold police accountable? Replace their governments. Ideally, at the ballot box.
- cwkoss 5y ago
  https://twitter.com/commieactivity/status/1411096839693209600 https://twitter.com/commieactivity/status/141109683969320960...

nilstycho 5y ago

What were the serious issues you observed?

arionhardison 5y ago
1: Threats (against me) 2: Threats (against cops) 3: False claims 4: False sense of authority (people reporting to me) It was years ago, i've forgotten lots of the issues.