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Their stance on Property and Intellectual Monopolies are in contradiction. Why is one form of "property" respected and not the other?

Dracophoenix 5y ago
I can't speak for the definitions applied by LP of Colorado specifically but the general difference between real property and intellectual monopolies as they're currently applied is that any and all claims of real property are demonstrated through private contract and territorial defense. Intellectual monopolies necessitate the use of government force as a carrot for inventors and as a stick for everyone else (unless everything was done through blockchain).
- eevilspock 5y ago
  You believe that private real property "rights" don't depend on government force?
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > any and all claims of real property are demonstrated through private contract and territorial defense. Intellectual monopolies necessitate the use of government force a Private contract is just the kind of agreement that government has decided provides a basis for government force, so the distinction you are drawing even as you have written it is largely fictitious.
- mcguire 5y ago
  I don't suppose you could explain how to originate a chain of title solely through private contract? In other words, what does it mean that God didn't give a title to the original owner of a property?
breck 5y ago
Because one it makes sense to call "property" and the other is literally the opposite of property. If you think such a thing as "intellectual property" exists, then you would also probably be fine with calling cigarettes "health pops!". If your computer is your property, but there are loads of peaceful things you cannot do with it where no one else is directly affected, then it is not your property. The term "Intellectual Property" is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
- adwn 5y ago
  > Big lie Uhm, you might want to reconsider using a term which was literally invented by Adolf Hitler for his abysmally evil propaganda purposes.
  - herbst 5y ago
    To be fair I never heard of this and "grosse Lüge" is not unheard of in everyday German. I am surprised there even is a Wikipedia about that.

Dracophoenix 5y ago

I can't speak for the definitions applied by LP of Colorado specifically but the general difference between real property and intellectual monopolies as they're currently applied is that any and all claims of real property are demonstrated through private contract and territorial defense. Intellectual monopolies necessitate the use of government force as a carrot for inventors and as a stick for everyone else (unless everything was done through blockchain).

eevilspock 5y ago
You believe that private real property "rights" don't depend on government force?
dragonwriter 5y ago
> any and all claims of real property are demonstrated through private contract and territorial defense. Intellectual monopolies necessitate the use of government force a Private contract is just the kind of agreement that government has decided provides a basis for government force, so the distinction you are drawing even as you have written it is largely fictitious.
mcguire 5y ago
I don't suppose you could explain how to originate a chain of title solely through private contract? In other words, what does it mean that God didn't give a title to the original owner of a property?

breck 5y ago

Because one it makes sense to call "property" and the other is literally the opposite of property. If you think such a thing as "intellectual property" exists, then you would also probably be fine with calling cigarettes "health pops!". If your computer is your property, but there are loads of peaceful things you cannot do with it where no one else is directly affected, then it is not your property. The term "Intellectual Property" is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

adwn 5y ago
> Big lie Uhm, you might want to reconsider using a term which was literally invented by Adolf Hitler for his abysmally evil propaganda purposes.
- herbst 5y ago
  To be fair I never heard of this and "grosse Lüge" is not unheard of in everyday German. I am surprised there even is a Wikipedia about that.