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and its a full rewrite of the OS that is missing some functionality used by users.

naikrovek 5y ago
who cares about missing functionality when compared with deletion of your data? surely deletion of data is worse alternative to losing the ability to theme the web UI, or whatever. this is why Microsoft has so many updates so often for Windows 10. security issues which require no intervention from the victim are VERY REAL, and when left alone, users will not update. this has been proven time and time again. A user can take no action and still be vulnerable today when they were not vulnerable yesterday. this WD instance is yet another example of users not knowing what is best for themselves; not knowing to update their devices, or to take their devices off of the internet. there are secure, free, easy-to-setup ways to access files over the internet on a NAS which does not have internet access... WD will hopefully force users to update in the future for internet connected devices, and for devices that go out of support, and can no longer receive updates, WD should take them off the internet as a final action, to protect the consumer. THIS EXACT SITUATION is why updates should be forced on users. nothing shoots itself in the foot as often or as thoroughly as a user that doesn't know what they're doing, believing they know what they're doing.
- MrStonedOne 5y ago
  This exact situation is why users don't update.
  - naikrovek 5y ago
    > This exact situation is why users don't update. users not updating CAUSED this situation. the actual blame lies on the attackers, of course, and users who do not take security updates make this type of attack possible.
    - sp332 5y ago
      Vendors who make customers choose between features and security aren't helping. Removing stuff from the product and saying it's still "supported" is a little sketchy.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  WD shouldn't be removing features that users rely on. Bundling feature loss with security updates is just bad practice. If faced with losing functionality critical to the reason someone purchased a device vs. vague release notes that mention security updates, the average consumer in many cases is going to weigh the intangible risk of security problems pretty small against the guaranteed loss of required features.
  - naikrovek 5y ago
    > the average consumer in many cases is going to weigh the intangible risk of security problems pretty small against the guaranteed loss of required features. what are those lost features? do any of those lost features include the unintentional loss of data or the inability to access said data? if not, if the user can maintain access to the stuff on the NAS after a security update, they should update, because there is no NAS security update that takes away your ability to access your data. I really do wonder what these missing features are because there is zero likelihood that the ability to access the storage device itself is one of the lost features.

who cares about missing functionality when compared with deletion of your data? surely deletion of data is worse alternative to losing the ability to theme the web UI, or whatever. this is why Microsoft has so many updates so often for Windows 10. security issues which require no intervention from the victim are VERY REAL, and when left alone, users will not update. this has been proven time and time again. A user can take no action and still be vulnerable today when they were not vulnerable yesterday. this WD instance is yet another example of users not knowing what is best for themselves; not knowing to update their devices, or to take their devices off of the internet. there are secure, free, easy-to-setup ways to access files over the internet on a NAS which does not have internet access... WD will hopefully force users to update in the future for internet connected devices, and for devices that go out of support, and can no longer receive updates, WD should take them off the internet as a final action, to protect the consumer. THIS EXACT SITUATION is why updates should be forced on users. nothing shoots itself in the foot as often or as thoroughly as a user that doesn't know what they're doing, believing they know what they're doing.

MrStonedOne 5y ago
This exact situation is why users don't update.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  > This exact situation is why users don't update. users not updating CAUSED this situation. the actual blame lies on the attackers, of course, and users who do not take security updates make this type of attack possible.
  - sp332 5y ago
    Vendors who make customers choose between features and security aren't helping. Removing stuff from the product and saying it's still "supported" is a little sketchy.
ineedasername 5y ago
WD shouldn't be removing features that users rely on. Bundling feature loss with security updates is just bad practice. If faced with losing functionality critical to the reason someone purchased a device vs. vague release notes that mention security updates, the average consumer in many cases is going to weigh the intangible risk of security problems pretty small against the guaranteed loss of required features.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  > the average consumer in many cases is going to weigh the intangible risk of security problems pretty small against the guaranteed loss of required features. what are those lost features? do any of those lost features include the unintentional loss of data or the inability to access said data? if not, if the user can maintain access to the stuff on the NAS after a security update, they should update, because there is no NAS security update that takes away your ability to access your data. I really do wonder what these missing features are because there is zero likelihood that the ability to access the storage device itself is one of the lost features.