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by kens 5y ago

Cerium 5y ago
I love that it is a literal paperweight and not simply a relic. Thank you for the fun read.
mustacheemperor 5y ago
Thanks for the great write up! Any chance this thing still works? I imagine it may require some modification either way because of the oldschool battery.
- kens 5y ago
  The paperweight worked after I fixed a broken wire and powered it from a power supply, and it generated the beeping sound. However, after I re-assembled it, it switched to an annoying fast-beep. I don't know if a component failed or I messed something up during assembly. You can hear the beeping here: https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289 https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289
- tyingq 5y ago
  >I imagine it may require some modification either way because of the oldschool battery. It's a 22.5v ANSI/NEDA 215, and they still make them. Alkaline now instead of Zinc-Carbon. They are kind of expensive, at $20+ USD, but available.
betamaxthetape 5y ago
A great "tear down" of a really interesting device. I'd be curious how you ended up with this? I'm sceptical that the satellite is Ariel 1 or Ariel 2 for two reasons: (a) Ariel was the British satellite programme, and I think that General Electric would have based the design on an American satellite. (b) Ariel 2 was build by Westinghouse, a rival to GE. My guess would be that it's a generic design, but I would love to hear an update if you find out for sure. (I'm interested in the Ariel satellites, particularly Ariel 3, since I've ended up with a few of the original Ariel 3 telemetry tapes from the STADAN tracking stations. Still trying to work out a viable way to read / understand them...)
- kens 5y ago
  The paperweight was loaned to me for analysis. It's pretty cool that you have Ariel 3 telemetry tapes. I agree that the satellite in the paperweight isn't Ariel, but Ariel was the most similar satellite I could find. I'm hoping someone will find a satellite that is a better match. But it could be some obscure proposed satellite that was never built.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  What kind of physical format do those tapes have?
  - betamaxthetape 5y ago
    They are half-inch wide 7-track tapes. It's the 7-track bit that makes them difficult to read (I have a half-inch machine but it's 8-track). I think it was NASA and a few other government agencies using this 7-track format (or 1-inch 14-track), rather than the 1/2-inch 8-track / 1-inch 16-track used in audio studios. The workflow for these tapes is described on the Chilton Computing website [1]. (Note: this is analogue 7-track, not to be confused with the digital 7-track format used by early IBM mainframe machines). [1] http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/applications/satellite/p003.htm http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/applications/satelli...
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      There is a Teac 1/2 " that does 8 tracks, you could probably read them one track at the time by judiciously jiggling the height of the head relative to the base of the player. The heads are narrower than a single track so that should work. The analog format is likely simple FSK or some variation on that theme. It would take 7 passes to get it off assuming only one of the heads lines up with a track at any given time. Keeping the sync between the tracks will be the hard part. I'm in Europe so that probably rules out collaboration on this but if there is some way to get me a sample of such a tape I'll be more than happy to give it a shot. edit: this machine: https://soniccircus.com/product/teac-80-8-1-2-8-track-analog-recorder/ https://soniccircus.com/product/teac-80-8-1-2-8-track-analog...
ipsum2 5y ago
Could you record a clip of the sound?
- kens 5y ago
  You can hear the beeping here: https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289 https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289

Author here if anyone has questions...

by kens 5y ago

Author here if anyone has questions...

Cerium 5y ago

I love that it is a literal paperweight and not simply a relic. Thank you for the fun read.

mustacheemperor 5y ago

Thanks for the great write up! Any chance this thing still works? I imagine it may require some modification either way because of the oldschool battery.

kens 5y ago
The paperweight worked after I fixed a broken wire and powered it from a power supply, and it generated the beeping sound. However, after I re-assembled it, it switched to an annoying fast-beep. I don't know if a component failed or I messed something up during assembly. You can hear the beeping here: https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289 https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289
tyingq 5y ago
>I imagine it may require some modification either way because of the oldschool battery. It's a 22.5v ANSI/NEDA 215, and they still make them. Alkaline now instead of Zinc-Carbon. They are kind of expensive, at $20+ USD, but available.

betamaxthetape 5y ago

A great "tear down" of a really interesting device. I'd be curious how you ended up with this? I'm sceptical that the satellite is Ariel 1 or Ariel 2 for two reasons: (a) Ariel was the British satellite programme, and I think that General Electric would have based the design on an American satellite. (b) Ariel 2 was build by Westinghouse, a rival to GE. My guess would be that it's a generic design, but I would love to hear an update if you find out for sure. (I'm interested in the Ariel satellites, particularly Ariel 3, since I've ended up with a few of the original Ariel 3 telemetry tapes from the STADAN tracking stations. Still trying to work out a viable way to read / understand them...)

kens 5y ago
The paperweight was loaned to me for analysis. It's pretty cool that you have Ariel 3 telemetry tapes. I agree that the satellite in the paperweight isn't Ariel, but Ariel was the most similar satellite I could find. I'm hoping someone will find a satellite that is a better match. But it could be some obscure proposed satellite that was never built.
jacquesm 5y ago
What kind of physical format do those tapes have?
- betamaxthetape 5y ago
  They are half-inch wide 7-track tapes. It's the 7-track bit that makes them difficult to read (I have a half-inch machine but it's 8-track). I think it was NASA and a few other government agencies using this 7-track format (or 1-inch 14-track), rather than the 1/2-inch 8-track / 1-inch 16-track used in audio studios. The workflow for these tapes is described on the Chilton Computing website [1]. (Note: this is analogue 7-track, not to be confused with the digital 7-track format used by early IBM mainframe machines). [1] http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/applications/satellite/p003.htm http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/acl/applications/satelli...
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    There is a Teac 1/2 " that does 8 tracks, you could probably read them one track at the time by judiciously jiggling the height of the head relative to the base of the player. The heads are narrower than a single track so that should work. The analog format is likely simple FSK or some variation on that theme. It would take 7 passes to get it off assuming only one of the heads lines up with a track at any given time. Keeping the sync between the tracks will be the hard part. I'm in Europe so that probably rules out collaboration on this but if there is some way to get me a sample of such a tape I'll be more than happy to give it a shot. edit: this machine: https://soniccircus.com/product/teac-80-8-1-2-8-track-analog-recorder/ https://soniccircus.com/product/teac-80-8-1-2-8-track-analog...

ipsum2 5y ago

Could you record a clip of the sound?

kens 5y ago
You can hear the beeping here: https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289 https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1411032440534028289