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For me, personally, I don't mind the increase in taxes but I do mind putting more money into a broken system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_b

by dntrkv 5y ago

For me, personally, I don't mind the increase in taxes but I do mind putting more money into a broken system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_hea... We spend more than 2x per capita than most other countries, and we don't even provide care for everyone. Infrastructure and schools face similar issues in the US. I don't know what the answer is, but dumping more money into these systems will only make them more inefficient.

spaetzleesser 5y ago
"I do mind putting more money into a broken system." That's the problem with Obamacare. It just pumped more money into a corrupt system. The result is that premiums are going up like crazy. For the same reason I am against cancellation of student debt. If we don't stop the increases in tuition we are just shoveling money to corrupt institutions.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Premiums went up because more people started getting more healthcare. ACA is explicitly a wealth transfer from the young to the old and from the healthy to the sick. The young to the old because the highest premium for 64 year olds is capped at 3x the premium of 21 to 24 year olds. The healthy to the sick because insurance companies can only charge people based on age, location, and smoking status, and cannot refuse anyone for any reason. On top of that, healthcare cost increases slowed down after ACA. So ACA is working similar to universal taxpayer funded healthcare (which would require tax increases). It is not perfect, and it is quite likely there was a better alternative, but there were a lot of compromises that had to be made to even get ACA. There is only one party fighting to get people healthcare, and they do not have the power on Congress anymore. And likely never will again to be able to do things with it having to heavily compromise.

by dntrkv 5y ago

spaetzleesser 5y ago

"I do mind putting more money into a broken system." That's the problem with Obamacare. It just pumped more money into a corrupt system. The result is that premiums are going up like crazy. For the same reason I am against cancellation of student debt. If we don't stop the increases in tuition we are just shoveling money to corrupt institutions.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Premiums went up because more people started getting more healthcare. ACA is explicitly a wealth transfer from the young to the old and from the healthy to the sick. The young to the old because the highest premium for 64 year olds is capped at 3x the premium of 21 to 24 year olds. The healthy to the sick because insurance companies can only charge people based on age, location, and smoking status, and cannot refuse anyone for any reason. On top of that, healthcare cost increases slowed down after ACA. So ACA is working similar to universal taxpayer funded healthcare (which would require tax increases). It is not perfect, and it is quite likely there was a better alternative, but there were a lot of compromises that had to be made to even get ACA. There is only one party fighting to get people healthcare, and they do not have the power on Congress anymore. And likely never will again to be able to do things with it having to heavily compromise.