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So the slaves would not exist and would not be born if not for the slavers. Sounds legit.

• happytoexplain 5y ago
  Farmed animals are bred in extreme quantities over uncountable generations. There is obviously an argument for the original ancestor generations of farmed animals as to whether their lives would have been better if we did not farm them (and another, different argument for the current generation, if we decide to stop farming and have the choice of slaughtering them as normal or freeing them), but as we produced their descendants, that quickly became morally irrelevant as an argument for either side. E.g. it doesn't make sense to defend the concept of animal farming by saying that they are better off on a farm than in the wild if the ratio of the farmed population that would have been born otherwise is close to zero. So the question the cited person should have been thinking about is instead: Is it better to be farmed or to not exist? Since your sarcasm indicates a combative emotion, I'll let you know that I think the answer is obviously "to not exist" in the case of factory farms, but my moral opinion on the topic isn't what I was writing about.
  • ssijak 5y ago
    I'm not a combative, I've just tried to put the things in a more relatable perspective. It is easy for persons with power (over other people or animals) to justify why the exercise of power is justified or moral. But if we would try to imagine ourselves in their shoes or hooves and being subjugated for extreme exploitation, than that could open a door for a bit of empathy at least.