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I'm 33, allergic to IBM (and Oracle), want to stay away from their products if possible. Luckily I know nothing about IBM, only the spectrum protect backup...

by jve 5y ago

I'm 33, allergic to IBM (and Oracle), want to stay away from their products if possible. Luckily I know nothing about IBM, only the spectrum protect backup... I mean why everything has to be so complicated? Ugly? Props for having documentation + they support lots of OSes and features. But when it comes to management... even Linux people in my office make fun of that product, because how awkward, complex and time consuming it is to do particular tasks there. I showed Veeam admin some spectrum protect stuff, because he had todo some task there... He just laughed out loud.

theandrewbailey 5y ago
From what little exposure that I've had to IBM, Oracle, and professional HP products, it's the result of a different evolutionary line of computing. It predates personal computing (from back when there was allegedly market for 5 computers[0]), so its interface and naming conventions are foreign to each other, as if it lives in ivory towers and never mixes with anything else. It's painfully obvious that personal computing moves much faster and is easier to use. [0] https://freakonomics.com/2008/04/17/our-daily-bleg-did-ibm-really-see-a-world-market-for-about-five-computers/ https://freakonomics.com/2008/04/17/our-daily-bleg-did-ibm-r...
pjmlp 5y ago
Given the amount of work they contribute to the Linux kernel, I expect you not to use anything Linux related then.
- jve 5y ago
  I do. I can manage services I need on my raspberry. That is not sole exposure to Linux and not afraid of it. Anyways, I get that IBM is a big whale. It just i rather avoid their products. But speaking for spectrum protect... the more I think of it, the more I understand that it is the configuration and usage of the product I really dislike. And the embarrassment of helping customers configuring/troubleshooting that product. Otherwise it is solid. Once configured, does its job pretty well and solid. And we are a service provider - it was actually capable of providing with the feature set a service provider needs to.

by jve 5y ago

theandrewbailey 5y ago

From what little exposure that I've had to IBM, Oracle, and professional HP products, it's the result of a different evolutionary line of computing. It predates personal computing (from back when there was allegedly market for 5 computers[0]), so its interface and naming conventions are foreign to each other, as if it lives in ivory towers and never mixes with anything else. It's painfully obvious that personal computing moves much faster and is easier to use. [0] https://freakonomics.com/2008/04/17/our-daily-bleg-did-ibm-really-see-a-world-market-for-about-five-computers/ https://freakonomics.com/2008/04/17/our-daily-bleg-did-ibm-r...

pjmlp 5y ago

Given the amount of work they contribute to the Linux kernel, I expect you not to use anything Linux related then.

jve 5y ago
I do. I can manage services I need on my raspberry. That is not sole exposure to Linux and not afraid of it. Anyways, I get that IBM is a big whale. It just i rather avoid their products. But speaking for spectrum protect... the more I think of it, the more I understand that it is the configuration and usage of the product I really dislike. And the embarrassment of helping customers configuring/troubleshooting that product. Otherwise it is solid. Once configured, does its job pretty well and solid. And we are a service provider - it was actually capable of providing with the feature set a service provider needs to.