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Does anybody have any information about this guy? I've seen his claim of being the "inventor" of mRNA vaccines a few times, but I am skeptical because this clai

Does anybody have any information about this guy? I've seen his claim of being the "inventor" of mRNA vaccines a few times, but I am skeptical because this claim seems to only be made by his own self. I see this Wikipedia article does cite papers and patents of his a few times, but his name does not appear in the main body of the text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

moistly 5y ago
It looks to me that he’s a self-aggrandizing liar. This Reddit thread contains a few good links. https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/oc31pe/dr_robert_malone_the_inventor_of_mrna_vaccines/ https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/oc31pe/dr...
- eggy 5y ago
  You're calling him a liar, but the Reddit link even contains a link to citations as far back as 1996 that seems to substantiate that he has been very involved with the technologies used to create the mRNA technique for the vaccines. Ad hominem attacks are not helpful in validating the point in question or the person's character. I don't know your qualifications, but he does seem to have the qualifications and a trail of citations that deserve more scrutiny before passing judgement. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5589466A/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US5589466A/en An excerpt from the 1996 patent by Robert Malone and others: "The present invention relates to introduction of naked DNA and RNA sequences into a vertebrate to achieve controlled expression of a polypeptide. It is useful in gene therapy, vaccination, and any therapeutic situation in which a polypeptide should be administered to cells in vivo." [EDIT - added summary from above patent for more reference] - SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION The present invention provides a method for delivering a pharmaceutical or immunogenic polypeptide to the interior of a cell of a vertebrate in vivo, comprising the step of introducing a preparation comprising a pharmaceutically acceptable injectable carrier and a naked polynucleotide operatively coding for the polypeptide into the interstitial space of a tissue comprising the cell, whereby the naked polynucleotide is taken up into the interior of the cell and has an immunogenic or pharmacological effect on the vertebrate.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - pbak 5y ago
    You are most probably arguing against a troll paid by a PR agency.
    - eggy 5y ago
      I am sure Pfizer and Co. will be paying a lot of people to divert any negative publicity and amp up the company line. You can buy a lot with billions of dollars. No PR agency needed.
      - pbak 5y ago
        Edelman has entered the chat... https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/edelman-pr-and-the-manufacturing-of-trust-1/ https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/e... My point : you still need somebody smart to set the tone, define the company line, write the basic copy. Then you farm trolls.
      - moistly 5y ago
        Sure thing, Robert.
YooLi 5y ago
Browse the edits of the Wikipedia link. It’s a battle of removing/restoring him from the history.
- eggy 5y ago
  This is insane. Bret Weinstein and Robert Malone have stated they don't know any ultimate verdict on the safety of the vaccine; they're just saying things like it is exhibiting higher bio-distribution than was anticipated, and 7 months of vaccines cannot substitute for 3 to 7 years of waiting on data for things like possible higher rates of leukemia or whatever given that fact. The data they are using is not from some fringe lab or government; it is from early studies of the vaccine by those involved. The spike that was engineered to stay put, didn't. It shears off and becomes a foreign body finding itself in large concentrations in the ovaries and bone marrow. I know the nano particle delivery particles are found, but where there's smoke there's fire. This from the Japanese CDC. They are simply asking for transparency and more studies, and not a group dismissal of evidence. Why is everyone quick to mob silence anyone with any doubt of what we're being told by the CDC, WHO, or big Pharma with 7 months of trials, or since the vaccines were first given. The lab leak dismissal was harsh, and now that it has more than enough traction, those who were silenced have not been restored by big tech. The wake of censorship leaves destruction in its wake that is not rectified by the truth coming to light. That would be justice's part I guess. Another BIG red flag is the total dismissal of 'natural' immunity. I have had COVID, and so has my immediate family. We still have antibodies 7 months later per antibody testing. Why will be denied freedoms from COVID restrictions? You'd have to be a sucker to think big Pharma is going to cut into their profits by advertising 'natural' immunity means you don't need the vaccine, since it is just as effective. The number of deaths due to the vaccine is a low number, and those are tightly scritinized to make sure it is the vaccine (unlike how many respiratory illnesses were lumped into the COVID figures early on), and still it is more death by vaccine than in the last 13-plus years of all vaccines combined. You can't take back the choice to get vaccinated, so the natural reaction is to dismiss any potentially horrifying news. I live with both anxieties. My older children decided to get vaccinated even after having COVID, because their universities required it for attending school. My wife, myself, and my 2-year-old boy and 6-year-old girl will not get the vaccine until more information comes to light. We feel that our natural immunity is just as effective as the vaccine to stay any panic-fueled decisions. I just hope my older children have stopped developing enough that this will not cause an unwanted side effect.
Inu 5y ago
His name was removed after he voiced concerns about vaccine risks on the Bret Weinstein podcast: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&oldid=1027623030 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&oldid...
- airhead969 5y ago
  Damnatio memoriae if you don't agree to apologize 10x, cut off a pinky finger, and agree with the "correct" agenda. This is how inverse totalitarianism "executes" people.. disables their access, shuts them out, and erases them from existence.

moistly 5y ago

It looks to me that he’s a self-aggrandizing liar. This Reddit thread contains a few good links. https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/oc31pe/dr_robert_malone_the_inventor_of_mrna_vaccines/ https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/oc31pe/dr...

eggy 5y ago
You're calling him a liar, but the Reddit link even contains a link to citations as far back as 1996 that seems to substantiate that he has been very involved with the technologies used to create the mRNA technique for the vaccines. Ad hominem attacks are not helpful in validating the point in question or the person's character. I don't know your qualifications, but he does seem to have the qualifications and a trail of citations that deserve more scrutiny before passing judgement. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5589466A/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US5589466A/en An excerpt from the 1996 patent by Robert Malone and others: "The present invention relates to introduction of naked DNA and RNA sequences into a vertebrate to achieve controlled expression of a polypeptide. It is useful in gene therapy, vaccination, and any therapeutic situation in which a polypeptide should be administered to cells in vivo." [EDIT - added summary from above patent for more reference] - SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION The present invention provides a method for delivering a pharmaceutical or immunogenic polypeptide to the interior of a cell of a vertebrate in vivo, comprising the step of introducing a preparation comprising a pharmaceutically acceptable injectable carrier and a naked polynucleotide operatively coding for the polypeptide into the interstitial space of a tissue comprising the cell, whereby the naked polynucleotide is taken up into the interior of the cell and has an immunogenic or pharmacological effect on the vertebrate.
- deleted 5y ago
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- pbak 5y ago
  You are most probably arguing against a troll paid by a PR agency.
  - eggy 5y ago
    I am sure Pfizer and Co. will be paying a lot of people to divert any negative publicity and amp up the company line. You can buy a lot with billions of dollars. No PR agency needed.
    - pbak 5y ago
      Edelman has entered the chat... https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/edelman-pr-and-the-manufacturing-of-trust-1/ https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/e... My point : you still need somebody smart to set the tone, define the company line, write the basic copy. Then you farm trolls.
    - moistly 5y ago
      Sure thing, Robert.

YooLi 5y ago

Browse the edits of the Wikipedia link. It’s a battle of removing/restoring him from the history.

eggy 5y ago
This is insane. Bret Weinstein and Robert Malone have stated they don't know any ultimate verdict on the safety of the vaccine; they're just saying things like it is exhibiting higher bio-distribution than was anticipated, and 7 months of vaccines cannot substitute for 3 to 7 years of waiting on data for things like possible higher rates of leukemia or whatever given that fact. The data they are using is not from some fringe lab or government; it is from early studies of the vaccine by those involved. The spike that was engineered to stay put, didn't. It shears off and becomes a foreign body finding itself in large concentrations in the ovaries and bone marrow. I know the nano particle delivery particles are found, but where there's smoke there's fire. This from the Japanese CDC. They are simply asking for transparency and more studies, and not a group dismissal of evidence. Why is everyone quick to mob silence anyone with any doubt of what we're being told by the CDC, WHO, or big Pharma with 7 months of trials, or since the vaccines were first given. The lab leak dismissal was harsh, and now that it has more than enough traction, those who were silenced have not been restored by big tech. The wake of censorship leaves destruction in its wake that is not rectified by the truth coming to light. That would be justice's part I guess. Another BIG red flag is the total dismissal of 'natural' immunity. I have had COVID, and so has my immediate family. We still have antibodies 7 months later per antibody testing. Why will be denied freedoms from COVID restrictions? You'd have to be a sucker to think big Pharma is going to cut into their profits by advertising 'natural' immunity means you don't need the vaccine, since it is just as effective. The number of deaths due to the vaccine is a low number, and those are tightly scritinized to make sure it is the vaccine (unlike how many respiratory illnesses were lumped into the COVID figures early on), and still it is more death by vaccine than in the last 13-plus years of all vaccines combined. You can't take back the choice to get vaccinated, so the natural reaction is to dismiss any potentially horrifying news. I live with both anxieties. My older children decided to get vaccinated even after having COVID, because their universities required it for attending school. My wife, myself, and my 2-year-old boy and 6-year-old girl will not get the vaccine until more information comes to light. We feel that our natural immunity is just as effective as the vaccine to stay any panic-fueled decisions. I just hope my older children have stopped developing enough that this will not cause an unwanted side effect.

Inu 5y ago

His name was removed after he voiced concerns about vaccine risks on the Bret Weinstein podcast: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&oldid=1027623030 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&oldid...

airhead969 5y ago
Damnatio memoriae if you don't agree to apologize 10x, cut off a pinky finger, and agree with the "correct" agenda. This is how inverse totalitarianism "executes" people.. disables their access, shuts them out, and erases them from existence.