> What would they do with this? Not get a job working for me ;) More seriously, when I think back to when I was first learning programming - in the heady days

> What would they do with this? Not get a job working for me ;) More seriously, when I think back to when I was first learning programming - in the heady days of 1985 - I would often copy listings out of computing magazines, make a mistake whilst doing it, and then have no idea what was wrong. The only way was to check character by character. I didn't have the deeper understanding yet, and so I couldn't contribute to solving the problem in any real way. If they're at that level as a programmer, to the point where their code is being written for them and they don't really understand it, then they're going to make some serious mistakes eventually. If you want to step up as a dev, understanding is key. Programming is hard and gets harder as you step up and bite off bigger and more complex problems. If you're relying on the tools to write your code, then your job is one step away from being automated. That should be enough to light a fire under your ambition!