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I think it's for being Black + Gay or whatever other minority. Latino is for males, Latina is for females so Latinx is for both and other genders and I guess t

I think it's for being Black + Gay or whatever other minority. Latino is for males, Latina is for females so Latinx is for both and other genders and I guess the + indicates belonging to another minority group. As a non-American this all seems silly but I see the point of it.

CydeWeys 5y ago
Google doesn't track sexual orientation. Black+ means black or black plus some other ethnic minority (Native American, Latino, etc.).
- curiousgal 5y ago
  I dont suppose the term was coined by Google so.. Following the same logic, LGBTQ+ doesn't refer to sexual orientation?
- bko 5y ago
  Google does track orientation of employees. They have a breakdown of intersectional hiring in their 2019 report. It may be voluntarily reported. But the + doesn't stand for orientation. I don't see how being gay makes you any more or less of a racial identity https://kstatic.googleusercontent.com/files/93d9a4094693cb783535e7baa3f596bccb1ce697dccec2e4db2114b84013ae12a1399ec9672fe1ab2fd419ac0ca9a3b6d2f78418b480885e7b24c9ec107c0ccc https://kstatic.googleusercontent.com/files/93d9a4094693cb78...
  - curiousgal 5y ago
    According to this[0] people can self-identify as "Black+" so if it's purely racial how could people self-identify as that? 0.https://developers.google.com/learn/certificates https://developers.google.com/learn/certificates
    - jonfw 5y ago
      You either let somebody tell you their race, or you assign them one. Which one would you be more comfortable doing?
      - kbelder 5y ago
        Can you be punished for picking one that isn't assigned to you?
    - jedberg 5y ago
      > so if it's purely racial how could people self-identify as that? Mixed race people. My kids would be Asian+ and White+ for example.
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gfo 5y ago
I see the point as well, but it seems like a lot of theatrics at this point. For example: the rainbow flag has always been for the LGBTQIA+ community. Now the flag has the added triangles with white, brown, aqua, and magenta for... black and trans folks? If that visibility makes folks feel included then by all means, but the rainbow colors on that flag weren't meant to specifically represent each aspect of that community to begin with. Maybe I've missed issues of representation in that community but I also don't think of LGBTQIA+ as an organization, just a sort of flag to represent non-cis folks. And then there's Latinx, which is interesting because >98% of folks actually from Latino countries loathe that and don't recognize it. It's purely an American appropriation of another culture's terminology by the same folks who generally raise issues of appropriation. I'm trying my best to be an ally but I have trouble keeping up with a lot of these things, even those which are a bit paradoxical. The best course of action I've found is to just treat everyone with kindness, respect, empathy, and an open mind.

CydeWeys 5y ago

Google doesn't track sexual orientation. Black+ means black or black plus some other ethnic minority (Native American, Latino, etc.).

curiousgal 5y ago
I dont suppose the term was coined by Google so.. Following the same logic, LGBTQ+ doesn't refer to sexual orientation?
bko 5y ago
Google does track orientation of employees. They have a breakdown of intersectional hiring in their 2019 report. It may be voluntarily reported. But the + doesn't stand for orientation. I don't see how being gay makes you any more or less of a racial identity https://kstatic.googleusercontent.com/files/93d9a4094693cb783535e7baa3f596bccb1ce697dccec2e4db2114b84013ae12a1399ec9672fe1ab2fd419ac0ca9a3b6d2f78418b480885e7b24c9ec107c0ccc https://kstatic.googleusercontent.com/files/93d9a4094693cb78...
- curiousgal 5y ago
  According to this[0] people can self-identify as "Black+" so if it's purely racial how could people self-identify as that? 0.https://developers.google.com/learn/certificates https://developers.google.com/learn/certificates
  - jonfw 5y ago
    You either let somebody tell you their race, or you assign them one. Which one would you be more comfortable doing?
    - kbelder 5y ago
      Can you be punished for picking one that isn't assigned to you?
  - jedberg 5y ago
    > so if it's purely racial how could people self-identify as that? Mixed race people. My kids would be Asian+ and White+ for example.
- deleted 5y ago
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gfo 5y ago

I see the point as well, but it seems like a lot of theatrics at this point. For example: the rainbow flag has always been for the LGBTQIA+ community. Now the flag has the added triangles with white, brown, aqua, and magenta for... black and trans folks? If that visibility makes folks feel included then by all means, but the rainbow colors on that flag weren't meant to specifically represent each aspect of that community to begin with. Maybe I've missed issues of representation in that community but I also don't think of LGBTQIA+ as an organization, just a sort of flag to represent non-cis folks. And then there's Latinx, which is interesting because >98% of folks actually from Latino countries loathe that and don't recognize it. It's purely an American appropriation of another culture's terminology by the same folks who generally raise issues of appropriation. I'm trying my best to be an ally but I have trouble keeping up with a lot of these things, even those which are a bit paradoxical. The best course of action I've found is to just treat everyone with kindness, respect, empathy, and an open mind.