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I wonder why nobody has mentioned tutanota as an alternative in this thread. It's not too expensive and quite safe as far as I'm aware. If anyone knows a downsi

by dogo22 5y ago

I wonder why nobody has mentioned tutanota as an alternative in this thread. It's not too expensive and quite safe as far as I'm aware. If anyone knows a downside to it please share it with us.

bennyp101 5y ago
Not really the same, you have to use their clients to access your email (and doesn't seem to have a bridge like Protonmail) so you are effectively locked in
Markoff 5y ago
Tutanota ain't very safe https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/08/german-secure-email-provider-tutanota-forced-to-monitor-an-account-after-regional-court-ruling/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/08/german-secure-email-provid...
- gruez 5y ago
  Is there reason to believe other mail providers aren't subject to the same kind of court order?
  - Markoff 5y ago
    Yes, if they are not headquartered in Germany.
wohfab 5y ago
What does "user" mean with tutanota? If I want multiple custom domains, I need to go with the business account, which has a 1 GB storage limit and a 5 aliases limit. And then it is only for a single user. Does that mean, I cannot have independent login data for the multiple domains/mailboxes I create? Because then it is not close to a viable alternative to migadu.
- decrypt 5y ago
  You can have an independent login account but that comes at an additional cost of 12 EUR. That's on the top of the Business plan's cost of 12 EUR + 12 EUR.
  - wohfab 5y ago
    Okay, then that defeats the purpose of why _I_ chose Migadu, where there is no limit on the login accounts.
decrypt 5y ago
I was a paying Tutanota customer for two full years, but ended up cancelling recently. Reasons being lack of IMAP (ProtonMail does), slow development, [missing features](https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/search?q=missing&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/search?q=missing&restrict_...) yet their focus is on building quantum cryptography defense, and most importantly, their recent change in domain limit. It used to be unlimited on the 12 EUR plan, but without any announcement to the end-user, they limited that to 1. They [fixed that later](https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/lwr2ag/important_notice_for_multiple_domain_users_blog/ https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/lwr2ag/important_...) but I no longer trust their business practices.

by dogo22 5y ago

I wonder why nobody has mentioned tutanota as an alternative in this thread. It's not too expensive and quite safe as far as I'm aware. If anyone knows a downside to it please share it with us.

bennyp101 5y ago

Not really the same, you have to use their clients to access your email (and doesn't seem to have a bridge like Protonmail) so you are effectively locked in

Markoff 5y ago

Tutanota ain't very safe https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/08/german-secure-email-provider-tutanota-forced-to-monitor-an-account-after-regional-court-ruling/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/08/german-secure-email-provid...

gruez 5y ago
Is there reason to believe other mail providers aren't subject to the same kind of court order?
- Markoff 5y ago
  Yes, if they are not headquartered in Germany.

wohfab 5y ago

What does "user" mean with tutanota? If I want multiple custom domains, I need to go with the business account, which has a 1 GB storage limit and a 5 aliases limit. And then it is only for a single user. Does that mean, I cannot have independent login data for the multiple domains/mailboxes I create? Because then it is not close to a viable alternative to migadu.

decrypt 5y ago
You can have an independent login account but that comes at an additional cost of 12 EUR. That's on the top of the Business plan's cost of 12 EUR + 12 EUR.
- wohfab 5y ago
  Okay, then that defeats the purpose of why _I_ chose Migadu, where there is no limit on the login accounts.

decrypt 5y ago

I was a paying Tutanota customer for two full years, but ended up cancelling recently. Reasons being lack of IMAP (ProtonMail does), slow development, [missing features](https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/search?q=missing&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/search?q=missing&restrict_...) yet their focus is on building quantum cryptography defense, and most importantly, their recent change in domain limit. It used to be unlimited on the 12 EUR plan, but without any announcement to the end-user, they limited that to 1. They [fixed that later](https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/lwr2ag/important_notice_for_multiple_domain_users_blog/ https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/lwr2ag/important_...) but I no longer trust their business practices.